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Old 12-30-2009, 03:22 PM   #41
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No, I mean Leach is probably going to sue Texas Tech for wrongful termination or some other thing, and the school will probably spend more than $800K on legal fees and/or a settlement.
I imagine they have relationships with a law school and alumni that will make the legal fees easy to bear, and I would be shocked if Leach's suit wasn't thrown out, probably very quickly.
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:27 PM   #42
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You might want to try that yourself first.

Edit: Oh, now I get what can laughably be called your "reasoning". Had you said you were disputing Shmessy's version of the facts -- specifically on the matter of "locking" -- you might have a leg to stand on. However, you didn't, and hence you don't.
As is your wont, you jump in without bothering to grasp context. Smessy was posting about the detention aspect, which is what I responded to. Had I wanted to deal with the other aspects of his enumerated posts, I'd have done so.
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I imagine they have relationships with a law school and alumni that will make the legal fees easy to bear, and I would be shocked if Leach's suit wasn't thrown out, probably very quickly.
Why? Unless the door was locked or there's a rule/bylaw that hasn't been mentioned, Leach has a pretty clear win here.
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Why? Unless the door was locked or there's a rule/bylaw that hasn't been mentioned, Leach has a pretty clear win here.
I am not an expert on the subject, but I would be surprised if there aren't clauses in his contract allowing him to be dismissed on public relations or behavioral grounds. Additionally, I believe most athletic departments have the football trainers/doctors structured as a separate department not under the football coach's jurisdiction, and coaches have to sign waivers/statements indicating they will follow directions and look out for well being etc. If the trainers testify — as they apparently did to the AD, who just fired Leach — that Leach didn't follow their directions, he's not going anywhere at trial. I note his lawyer spent a lot of his time trying to indicate Leach didn't specifically violate medical prescription so I imagine that's a real legal issue.

Basically it boils down to the fact that we all hear about players being suspended and dismissed from teams and schools for disciplinary reasons, apparently without generating lawsuits. Why would a coach be any different? I've seen first-hand a positional coach get fired by a head coach for the way he dealt with an injured player.
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sorry if this has already been posted. white rapper from Tech channeling Adam James:
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BTW, technically, you could argue it's "Semi-OT", since Craig James was a running back for the Patriots. [He also, BTW, was part of the SMU team that earned SMU the NCAA's death penalty.]
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I don't see what the problem is...a locked closet was my babysitter for most of my childhood.
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1.) Coaches can discipline players.

2.) Coaches can require players attend practice even if they can't physically take part in the practice.

3.) Taking the kid out of bright light is a good thing when dealing with concussion, and the doctor reportedly stated that the actions taken were beneficial to the kid.


If Leach loses this case, pretty much every coach and teacher in America can be fired for cause immediately.


*Assuming there was no physical nature to the 'detention' and that nothing further comes to light.
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Basically it boils down to the fact that we all hear about players being suspended and dismissed from teams and schools for disciplinary reasons, apparently without generating lawsuits. Why would a coach be any different? I've seen first-hand a positional coach get fired by a head coach for the way he dealt with an injured player.
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Leach, who went 84-43 and took his team to 10 straight bowl games, was ostensibly fired for his mistreatment of a player with a mild concussion, but don't be fooled. The allegations by Adam James' family were a convenient excuse for school president Guy Bailey and athletic director Gerald Myers to rid themselves of a coach who, despite bringing the school considerable prestige, never fully earned their respect and butted heads with the administration for years (most notably in last winter's contentious contract negotiations). When the school rushed to suspend him Monday, we all knew where this was headed.
Firing Mike Leach will hurt Texas Tech more than it helps - Stewart Mandel - SI.com
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I don't see what the problem is...a locked closet was my babysitter for most of my childhood.
Ah, so that explains it.
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