Pessimistic Pete

David Ortiz talks Boston Red Sox mess, possible free agency move to New York Yankees - ESPN Boston

This team is pathetic. **** off Ortiz.

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IcyPatriot

Later Ortiz ... freaking gave up being a leader because he did not get his 2 year deal ... freaking chalupa see you later.

captain insano

i totally agree. i don't care what he does. hes turned into a me first player. i still cant believe he interrupted a live post game press conference with tito to whine about not getting a rbi from the official scorer.

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jcdavey

ortiz on the yankees years after the espn commercial with him wearing a yankee hat


ESPN Jorge Posada & David Ortiz - YouTube


how ironic would that be

borg

Ortiz is negotiating through the press...pure and simple. Do you think it was a coincidence that Ortiz's 2 national commercials in the last 2 years had NY themes. His ESPN commercial wearing a Yankees cap....his MLB commercial hugging a bunch of NYers. Ortiz has successfully killed two birds with one stone....strike fear with Boston management and soften up NYers. Ortiz knows what he is doing. Being a left handed power hitter is less rewarding statwise at Fenway than that shortened RF in the Bronx.
The question that needs to be analyzed is...Can the Yanks realistically offer Ortiz the DH spot with ARod breaking down. Posada is done, gone. Chavez contract is up.
The old Steinbrenner would sign Ortiz...but I'm not sure Cashman would. ARod is on the books for $29 mill in '12. He played only 99 games in '11.
I suspect the Sox assign a value for Ortiz, and if the Yanks go over that #, so be it. I'm assuming that the Sox contract offer would be better than any other AL team but the Yanks.
If he goes to NY, in comes DH Youk. Personally, I'd rather have a lefty DH at Fenway.

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BradyManny

So on the one hand you admit this team is pathetic.

On the other, you tell Ortiz to "f*** off" for not wanting to be on a pathetic team.

That makes no sense.

captain insano

it makes perfect sense.

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BradyManny

Why?

Are we really going to hold Ortiz accountable for what happened in the clubhouse?

A) No one stepped up in that clubhouse. Not the manager. Not the captain. Not Pedroia.

B) An acquaintance of mine worked in the Sox clubhouse for many years, so I can speak to this one on authority - baseball clubhouses are notoriously cliquey, including down racial lines. The demise of this baseball team was due to a bunch of dumb*****, redneck pitchers on this team acting like the white trash that they are. David Ortiz is not the guy who is going to step in and put an end to that. Beckett was the ringleader, we know this. And outside of Beckett, I imagine there was no one who was going to stop that group of redneck, beer-drinking, fried-chicken-eating morons from pissing away their season.

There was nothing Ortiz could do. And though it's the manager's job to police these things, Tito wasn't strong enough to take care of it.

chicowalker

What exactly did Ortiz do wrong now?

He's one of the few players on the team who lived up to / exceeded expectations last year.

Boston Boxer

A) agree 100%
B) that is absolutely insane