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Old 06-25-2009, 10:51 PM   #1
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... sorry ... I had to do it. Seriously ... who here is confident that smoltz can bring anything to the table here? I guess they owe him the chance but I don't even see him beating out even Dice-K at this point ... Dice-K will have a good 2nd half IMO.

We have the luxury of time here ... does anyone think he becomes any more than the #4 or #5 guy here this year? Penny is bringing it and Wake is doing well ... can Smoltz pitch better this year than either of them? I really don't think so and of course I hope I'm wrong.
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... sorry ... I had to do it. Seriously ... who here is confident that smoltz can bring anything to the table here? I guess they owe him the chance but I don't even see him beating out even Dice-K at this point ... Dice-K will have a good 2nd half IMO.
One start and you are throwing him to the wolves? He's a potential Hall of Fame pitcher in his first start in a long, long time- he's earned the benefit of the doubt and patience

From what I've heard Dice-K will not factor in much for a while, possibly not until mid to late August- hard to have a good 2nd half when you are missing most of it.

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We have the luxury of time here ... does anyone think he becomes any more than the #4 or #5 guy here this year? Penny is bringing it and Wake is doing well ... can Smoltz pitch better this year than either of them? I really don't think so and of course I hope I'm wrong.
One bad start could be just that: a bad start. He might bounce back and have a heck of a year, or he might be done. It's way, way, way too early to make any projection on him.

Either way their gamble with Penny and Smoltz is going the way they figured it would: one is doing well, the other might be done. They got what they had hoped for.
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Who will Smoltz beat out in the rotation? Dice-K may be the team's best pitcher when healthy, he had the league's best opponents-against-average last year among all pitchers.
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One start and you are throwing him to the wolves? He's a potential Hall of Fame pitcher in his first start in a long, long time- he's earned the benefit of the doubt and patience .
I really just wanted to stir up some ***** with the thread ...

How many MLB teams wish they had our 7 man potential staff?

Seriously dice-K will get it back and 3 guys get you through the playoffs.

At best he's the 5th pitcher here if Dice-K or someone else is injured.
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I really just wanted to stir up some ***** with the thread ...

How many MLB teams wish they had our 7 man potential staff?

Seriously dice-K will get it back and 3 guys get you through the playoffs.

At best he's the 5th pitcher here if Dice-K or someone else is injured.
Actually it's eight starters...Masterson got "demoted" to bullpen work
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Who will Smoltz beat out in the rotation? Dice-K may be the team's best pitcher when healthy, he had the league's best opponents-against-average last year among all pitchers.
That was last year...this year he stinks. 1-5 record with an era of 8.25 for Dice-K in eight starts.

Smoltz was supposed to take Penny's slot or whoever got injured, and in this case it's Dice-K's slot.
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Actually it's eight starters...Masterson got "demoted" to bullpen work

.. yup ... forgot that.
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That was last year...this year he stinks. 1-5 record with an era of 8.25 for Dice-K in eight starts.

Smoltz was supposed to take Penny's slot or whoever got injured, and in this case it's Dice-K's slot.
Becket sucked it up to start seasons before as well.

Once he rests his arm and comes back, Dice-K is going to dominate. Look at his stats every year he's been in the league. His career averages are all better than Beckett's.
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[QUOTE=maverick4;1416133]Dice-K may be the team's best pitcher when healthy/QUOTE]

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Becket sucked it up to start seasons before as well.

Once he rests his arm and comes back, Dice-K is going to dominate. Look at his stats every year he's been in the league. His career averages are all better than Beckett's.
That's what was expected after his last DL stint and he did poorly. Resting him again won't help him, he needs surgery and that's it for the year for him if he does need it.

He's not likely to come back this year, it's on Beckett, Lester, Wakefield, and Penny to keep pace for them.
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