Sciz

No fine for Lloyd

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betterthanthealternative

Been wondering if this year the refs are in general irritated with the Pats offense because it is making them work a lot harder than they are accustomed to.

Pujo

Kind of weird to see a kicker get fined, but he saved that play so it was worth it.

Danger Zone

It was my impression watching the game that the ball was thrown a little hard... but after watching how this ref (in the link previously provided) cheap-shotted the Rams runningback I've got to say, this guy has some macho-insecurity issues.

And for what its worth, you could make a case that Lloyd had to put some zip on the ball because Barwin is about to walk between Lloyd and the ref. Anything thrown less forcibly might have bounced off Barwin.

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Salva135

BINGO. If a slower offense had a player do that, it wouldn't matter. National stage, the Pats and all of the issues they bring to the table, it happens. Refs are human and have personalities, too. If a Browns' WR did this in a Sunday afternoon game, does he get a penalty?

sarge

BS call

I looked at it a few times since.

Didn't look like he flipped it that hard to me.

If I'm the player, I just drop it on the ground from there on out and let the ref walk and bend his fat @ss over everytime to pick it up.

sarge

And would have drawn a flag...

TyronePoole

can't fine him since it's easy for him to win an appeal

Yehoodi

Lloyd threw the ball too hard given the situation . . . anyone that does not see that, well just doesn't get it . . . coupled with the fact that he looked at the official and then just shuffle away without even an apology got the ire of the ref . . . perhaps the ref could of went up to him and gave him a warning given the place on the field and the importance of the game . . .

but, out of respect and shall i say sportmanship, you lightly toss the ball to the ref, you guys have seen it a 1000 times the balls has some kind of loft to it, or you throw it underhand so it has a loft too, whatever . .. but there never a line drive, at least that close to the ref, you seen line drives maybe when there are like 10 yards apart, but not that close . . or if they have already made eye contact . . . .

also too the ref was not ready for that kind of throw and had to track down the ball . . . a simple little i am sorry would of solved the problem . . .

Do i think the ref should of thrown the flag, probably not as i can't really recall a penatly in that situation, but then again the never seen a guy line drive a ball to a ref 8 feet away who was not really ready for it, can't handle it and the player walks away like nothing happened . . . outof respect you hold teh ball look for an official, make eye contact and then lightly toss it to him . . . you don't zing the ball without eyecontact then walk away like you are the bees knees . . .

EDIT: i think Troy Brown got a similar penalty, and interestingly got it went he broke the record for most receptions as a Pats, and it was less harmless and really a mistake, if i remember right he looked at the ref as he was walking in from the side lines then look back and walked to the huddle and toss the ball to the ref and either hit him on the head or it went over his head or something and it drew a flag . . .

rfh

Apparently this is the ref who threw the flag at BL. Can anyone put this pic in context?