TinhWoodhead

anyone tell you you look like Brett Farve in that pic?

Snake Eyes

By that rationale BB should never cut any player who plays poorly because every one of them is a future TFB

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AzPatsFan

You draftniks are really DUMB.

The Patriots have a 35 going on 36 year old QB, that y'all think will play forever, or another 5 years. We can already see some deterioration of his long passing skills, yet you think its a good idea to trade an extraordinary talented QB prospect, that Bill Belichick's skill has brought to Foxboro.

Now he may or may not be a great or even good QB, but no one doubts that he has rare talent and size, with a rocket arm. Sure he can't run around like RG III or Russell Wilson, but he has an even better arm than Luck, and running QBs are exciting, but don'tseem to win anything.

In case you have forgotten, Tom Brady is a pocket passer and not a runner either. The only criticism of Mallett was an amorphous critique of his character, that was NOT buttressed by any facts, just press insinuations.

He has already demonstrated that he is not lazy, is coachable, and Belichik is impressed with his studiousness. He has not played much, but he is team oriented and works hard, given the numerous "Black Shirts" he was awarded.

In his time with the Patriots he has kept his nose clean; and to the grindstone, studying and diligently practising and learning. Sooner or later the Patriots will need either a backup or a replacement QB, and no one else is as close to being prepared to step forward, if needed.

mayoclinic

The 2 best QBs in the NFL this year were 35 and 36 years old. Neither shows much "deterioration", as you put it. Any team that loses a QB of that magnitude is going to experience a significant "deterioration", no matter who steps in.

Mallett assuredly has value. No one's suggesting dumping him. BB clearly values him. But do you really see him starting over Brady in the next 2 years? And do you really see him taking over as the successor to Brady after 2014? If not, then he's likely gone, as he won't want to ride the pine forever, and even if he somehow agreed the cap hit of keeping 2 QBs with high priced deals (which it would take to keep him if the Pats convinced him that he was "the successor") would be prohibitive, so if there is an opportunity to get something of value for him (which there may not be), then it's not unreasonable to consider it.

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lurker1965

I have learned to never underestimate the stupidity of other teams.

That said, I cannot see any team giving up enough to make me giddy. But if some team trades a second and third or something absurd sounding, I will be surprised but not amazed.

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lurker1965

Are you saying we should say "No" on principle to, say, Cleveland, offering us a good package?

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Snake Eyes

Maybe it's not that we're dumb but that you're an idiot, is that possible?

As far as what BB thinks, you don't know any more than we do. I don't care what BB says to the press, he's very aware of effect press statements have on a player and a smart coach will use that to his advantage.

No one thinks TFB will play forever, we understand that the torch will need to be passed, some of just don't think Mallett is capable of filling those shoes, mostly due to his lack of accuracy and poor decision making. All the people who bash Mallett have other candidates in mind who they'd like the Pats to pick up, so the idea of an heir is not lost on them.

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AzPatsFan

In this thread alone there has been several proposals to trade him for a passell of late picks. I never said that Mallett is a sure follow on to Brady, but but he is more talented than any QB prospect that a 7th rounder will likely supply. Both the 35 year old Brady, and 36 year old Manning, as QBs have lost a full year or more to injury. If either had another such an injury now, that may indeed be the end for either of them.

If you don't think Mallett is the answer, you should be discussing how to accumulate a pair of First Rounders in the the next few years to be able to trade upto draft for a "franchise" QB candidate.

At this stage of the Rebuild, the Pats don't need a passell of late picks. They are already young and deep. They need a few high draft pick studs to raise the frontliners play. In case you hadn't noticed, Bill Belichick shifted strategy last draft from numbers to quality. He traded up, instead of down, as was his usual Modus Operandi, for Jones and Hightower.

VJCPatriot

umm really? multiple picks? unless we can get a couple of 2nd rounders for mallet it's not worth it. and i d on't htink any team would pay that price.

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mayoclinic

I haven't read all the proposals, but as I've said, I wouldn't trade Mallett for chump change. It's up to BB to assess what he would consider Mallett's "value" to be. I think that by far the most likely scenario is that Mallett plays here for 4 years as Brady's backup and then leaves, and we will be lucky if we get a comp pick for him; and it may turn out to have been worth a mid-3rd round pick in 2011 to have a reasonable backup plan for 3 years. I think the odds of Mallett turning out to be Brady's "successor" are very low, and the odds of someone giving us adequate value are also fairly low. My calculus doesn't matter, only BB's does, but I'm sure it's not a late round pick. It will depend a lot on how highly he regards Mallett, how long Brady looks to play, how long he thinks Brady will maintain his current level, what short term backup options there are, and what long term options he has in mind down the road. I think it's hopeless to try and project what that calculus will be. If someone makes him an offer he thinks is worthwhile and the calculus favors it, Mallett will get traded. Otherwise, he won't. Right now, I'd bet it's a long shot, but not out of the question.

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