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Old 08-18-2008, 11:12 PM   #31
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Are you really going to include Matt Cassel among the players who looked good last night? When the general consensus was he may have played himself off the roster?
No I will stand up for him.

When he had major league receivers, he completed passes. There were drops by Evans once, Pollard once. He threw no INTs. Faulk's fumble ended one drive after they marched the length of the field to the red zone. Conolly's snap ended another. He displayed a maturing capacity to stay in the pocket. I believe he scrambled twice; once on a Bucs jailbreak, and evaded and even gained a couple of yards, after getting back to the line of scrimmage. The second tiem he gained three yards too. He was rushed on a screen pass to Maroney, and the first pass that was almost intercepted, were his only bad throws, IMO.

His job was to exercise the right side of the O line, over and over, and he did. His job was to test CJax and CJ and he did that too. All three CJax, CJ and Yates were terrible.

In all he went 6-10, with two drops, and two incompletions, no INTs, no TDs. Not a bad job really.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:15 PM   #32
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Despite the bad snap while trying out as a shotgun center, Conolly looks like the best of the youngsters on the O line. Possibly the only keeper amongst them.

Wellbourne won the RG job in my opinion, and also looked like he wil be a solid addition to the starting line. By far, this was the major question mark on the Team. A Line of Light/Britt, Mankins, Koppen, Wellbourne, and Kaczur iswould be fine. Britt provides depthat tackle and Hochstein, when he comes back, has proven a good interior backup. Running left the moved the ball. Running right they got stonewalled, with Yates. Running right with Wellbourne, they turned in several 4 -5 yard rushes to the right side.

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Apparently, according to Scottie C. the most impressive looking person out there last night was the whole Tampa Bay Bucs cheerleaders squad
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:21 AM   #34
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I thought Vince Redd made a few plays on defense and ST. I was disappointed in Gary Guyton, I thought he got run over several times. Mayo looked decent again. O'Connell showed flashes and has potential. I think he makes the team. I think we will see Gutierrez Friday. I prefer him over Cassel. I'm down on Chad Jackson. He terrifies me when he is back on punts. I don't think he has a clue. I used to like CJ JOnes but no longer trust him. It's so bad I prefer Ray Ventrone to either of them.

It still seems we are tipping the runs somehow. When Maroney is in, run is a first good guess, and when the TE motions back to the middle that is usually a run. Maybe Josh will get a HC job and Charlie will get fired at ND and we can rehire him.

Kenny Smith made some plays in the backfield for the second week in a row.

Crable mde some plays but got run over a couple times, it helped that the refs allowed the OL to tackle Crable.

I thought Britt and Kaczur were ok. My concern on the OL is RG. I couldn't see how Welbourn was doing but maybe he can play and plug the gap.

Connolly hurt himself with the shotgun snap, maybe Wendell can do better but that is a practice squad player at best.

Anyway, not to worry. DeOssie was right, a preseason game in Florida after camp ends. We've seen it before and will see it again. Sometimes the team just doesn't make the plane for these games. If you remember correctly, they have trouble making the plane for Miami and Arizona games anyway so the moral is expect a loss in Florida and Arizona and hope for the best because once in a while they win there regardless of how bad they play.
Overall brilliant assessment......I think Crable looked good overall and like you say....the refs let a ton of crap go in this one....he was dragged down at least twice....I think the OL play is our top concern....they are awful overall....and have terrible problems opening holes for the running game....terrible work by them....again this year.....good post
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Welbourne won the RG job in my opinion, and also looked like he wil be a solid addition to the starting line. By far, this was the major question mark on the Team. A Line of Light/Britt, Mankins, Koppen, Wellbourne, and Kaczur iswould be fine. ... Running right with Welbourne, they turned in several 4 -5 yard rushes to the right side.
I totally forgot to watch this guy. Might almost be worth firing up the PVR and re-watching him. Anyone else pay attention to JW and have any insight? I think we've cassel'd to our limit.
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