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Old 12-18-2012, 01:45 PM   #31
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I'm with Deus. This wouldn't normally interest me too much, but the inevitable availability of Cassel makes this awfully intriguing.
To me, that's the major X-factor, along with a couple of other considerations. IF Cassel is available, IF it looks like Brady is going to play beyond his 2014 contract, and IF someone wants to make a decent offer for Mallett, then the time to move Mallett could be sooner rather than later. All very big "ifs", but possible.

Factors that might favor a team making an offer for Mallett:

- The draft sucks for QBs this year
- There's a dearth of good FA talent
- A lot of teams are desperate

I wonder whether a conditional deal might be doable. Something like a 2013 3rd plus a 2014 3rd which is upgradeable based on performance. Just a thought.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:46 PM   #32
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The idea has merit. Tebow and Cassel should be available next year, so QBs that have worked with McDaniels could be brought in.
Cassel yes, Tebow no. Is there another word even more direct than no? I'll take that word.

I'm from the school of don't fix it if it ain't broke so I see no value in trading Mallet unless somebody is idiotic enough to fork over the unthinkable value.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:51 PM   #33
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I don't understand the thought process posters are having that Mallett is going to be worth a draft pick of significance. There is no body of work.

I suspect people are still in love with his college work or his combine workout (which I have no idea of his combine #'s). This guy could likely be Tom's successor, sure. He could also be Giovanni Carmazzi. We have no idea, and trying to put a high value on that unknown seems highly unlikely from my seat.
- How much of an NFL body of work do college players have?

- Do NFL teams base their draft decisions on a players college work and/or combine workouts?
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There is no body of work.
What about the way he stands on the sideline with dignity, sex appeal, and gosh knows what else?
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I wonder if Cassel is ruined / figured out by the league

2008 was a perfect storm. No opponents had a clue about what he could do. We had the easiest schedule we have had in any year I can remember. We had some fairly remarkable (i.e. fortunate) wins against middling teams to go 11-5, losing to every good team. We had tons of talent back from an 18-1 team.

I don't think that Cassel, even under McDaniel, would be a capable QB if he had to play. I'd prefer Mallett, though it's more of an unknown.
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I wonder if Cassel is ruined / figured out by the league

2008 was a perfect storm. No opponents had a clue about what he could do. We had the easiest schedule we have had in any year I can remember. We had some fairly remarkable (i.e. fortunate) wins against middling teams to go 11-5, losing to every good team. We had tons of talent back from an 18-1 team.

I don't think that Cassel, even under McDaniel, would be a capable QB if he had to play. I'd prefer Mallett, though it's more of an unknown.
Well he was actually better statistically in 2010 with the Chiefs than he was in 2008 with the Pats.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:03 PM   #37
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Doesn't make sense to me. You only trade Mallett when you can get more than you gave up for him, and I don't see anyone coughing up a 2nd when he hasn't done anything to show he can play in this league. If a team gets a woody for him and offers a second then by all means consider it, otherwise don't create a hole when you don't need to. Stick with him until a good offer comes along.
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Well he was actually better statistically in 2010 with the Chiefs than he was in 2008 with the Pats.
And then in 2011 and 2012 he is practically at he level of Mark Sanchez, or (somehow?) even worse!

no confidence? arm shot? beat up too much? I don't see him play enough to know what has gone so horribly wrong so fast, and how much of it is fixable.
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Cassel yes, Tebow no. Is there another word even more direct than no? I'll take that word.

I'm from the school of don't fix it if it ain't broke so I see no value in trading Mallet unless somebody is idiotic enough to fork over the unthinkable value.
As players like RG3 and Wilson (and Newton last year) have shown, you can win without playing an "NFL" offense, and Tebow won last year. The virulent anti-Tebow stuff is ridiculous, particularly because he could be brought in as the #3 behind Cassel, and because it would be done only if BB and McDaniels were both fully on board with the idea. It makes pretty much anyone who rails against Tebow worthless to listen to.

And I'm not sure what you think there is about Mallet that "ain't broke", since you've never seen him do anything in games that count.
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And then in 2011 and 2012 he is practically at he level of Mark Sanchez, or (somehow?) even worse!

no confidence? arm shot? beat up too much? I don't see him play enough to know what has gone so horribly wrong so fast, and how much of it is fixable.
David Carr syndrome. He might be fixable, he might be totally finished.
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