The Official post-Colts game secondary/pass defense/Talib thread...

[stealthdog]

There is definately room for improvement, but as a whole this was the best game the secondary played in a while.

Luck was held to a little better than 50%, and outside of a few bad passes and drops, it was because of the coverage. The Patriots had a huge amount of passed defended (11), 8 of which were from the back 4. In comparison, the Colts as a team had 1 pass defended.

When you consider it was Talib's first game and 2 rookies playing alot of snaps, against a team that has been very successful in the passing game against other teams, last night's performance by the secondary was definately a positive. They have room to slowly improve the rest of the season.

[Cassanova792]

Originally Posted by stealthdog

There is definately room for improvement, but as a whole this was the best game the secondary played in a while.

Luck was held to a little better than 50%, and outside of a few bad passes and drops, it was because of the coverage. The Patriots had a huge amount of passed defended (11), 8 of which were from the back 4. In comparison, the Colts as a team had 1 pass defended.

When you consider it was Talib's first game and 2 rookies playing alot of snaps, against a team that has been very successful in the passing game against other teams, last night's performance by the secondary was definately a positive. They have room to slowly improve the rest of the season.

I hope so! Hopefully they can keep playing aggressive.

[SeymourTrophies]

The Dennard pick six was an unforced error and perhaps a misread by Luck or the WR, but the Talib pick six was forced. Wilfork was in on Luck, and Luck had to adjust his arm motion to not get stripped. It wasn't a play that Talib made, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that our defense created it.

[PatsSox363804]

Originally Posted by SeymourTrophies

The Dennard pick six was an unforced error and perhaps a misread by Luck or the WR, but the Talib pick six was forced. Wilfork was in on Luck, and Luck had to adjust his arm motion to not get stripped. It wasn't a play that Talib made, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that our defense created it.

The fact that he was in position to even take advantage of the mistake is encouraging.

[CityOfChampions]

Originally Posted by PatsSox363804

The fact that he was in position to even take advantage of the mistake is encouraging.

The way he ran it back was encouraging too.

[KontradictioN]

I came away after the game with what I was expecting before the game: a mixed bag. Talib had an up and down day, but I can blame that on lack of reps and possibly not being in football shape after the suspension.

1. The touchdown that Talib gave up earlier in the game, he had excellent coverage on. The throw by Luck was simply that much better.

2. After the first couple of series, the corners moved into direct press-man and excelled at it, forcing the three and out.

3. Talib looks susceptible, at this moment in time, to double moves. He has burned on a few of them earlier in the game. Then, most notably, he was burned on the T.Y. Hilton TD later in the game. I expect the coaching staff to work with him on this.

4. Dennard had a solid game and it looks like McCourty is becoming more comfortable by the week in his safety role.

Those are the only secondary thoughts for now. I'm re-watching the game tonight and could come back with more info.

[Bobs My Uncle]

From here on out, if all Talib does is plays as he did yesterday, it'll be a vast improvement over what this team had previously at the corner spot. I'm all for that!

[Bhelmet]

The coverage looked better - and so did the pressure. I know they go hand-in-hand, so I hope we see more of the schemes (or at least that mindset) that we saw Sunday. It was fun to watch - far from perfect - but when we have become so used to lousy play the smallest improvement seems so huge.

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Originally Posted by Bobs My Uncle

From here on out, if all Talib does is plays as he did yesterday, it'll be a vast improvement over what this team had previously at the corner spot. I'm all for that!

With the run D as good as it is, and if the pass rush were to be anywhere near as good as it was yesterday, I too would gladly take those performances from Talib/Dennard even without the pick-6's... especially compared to what we've seen in recent years. Ideally each need to improve a bit, of course they're probably not going to play like #1 corners (Talib may, but I"m not going to depend on that), but they need to play at the level of the 2004 Asante/Randall Gay combo for this defense to have a chance and I think they will.

[Deus Irae]

Originally Posted by SeymourTrophies

The Dennard pick six was an unforced error and perhaps a misread by Luck or the WR, but the Talib pick six was forced. Wilfork was in on Luck, and Luck had to adjust his arm motion to not get stripped. It wasn't a play that Talib made, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that our defense created it.

Dennard was in position to get that ball whether it was properly thrown or not. Luck was wrong both in his throw's accuracy and in the decision to throw to that receiver in the first place.