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Old 10-15-2012, 12:43 PM   #11
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I like rodgers but brady would never complain to the media that his scout defense team was not playing with enough intensity. Packers seem to find a lot complaints with the refs and their chemistry and eveyrthing. But he is a great QB no doubt. If brady had one physical receiver who can stretch the field like jennings,nelson or even driver it would be awesome. Lloyd is great but not very big or physical.
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:44 PM   #12
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NOt sure that will be the case. Everyone's expectations are extremely high, that's why there's a lot of disappointment when the Pats lose. When the current run ends and we're stuck watching a rebuild, everyone's expectations will be tempered and a lose like this will be looked at in context.
I bet you it will be bad. Even with low expectations. It will be really really bad. Most of these fans haven't seen bad QBng. Even Bledsoe was a top 10-15 QB until his final year in New England. Heck, Cassell was a good QB here!!
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if brady was busy getting sacked 8 times, the pats owuld have never had the lead in this game.

but all things told, using any one game as a trend is weak.

but this affinity for blowing games late IS a trend for the pats this year.
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When the feces hit the fan, I guarantee you the first group of people to disappear out of this place will be people that you would consider "homers".
Proud homer here.

I've been going to games and following from the mid-70s. Been through lots of bad, and I'm around still. Never abandoned this team.

That being said, I think this place will get so bad that you're right, I'll be gone.

But I don't think that's what you implied.
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I bet you it will be bad. Even with low expectations. It will be really really bad. Most of these fans haven't seen bad QBng. Even Bledsoe was a top 10-15 QB until his final year in New England. Heck, Cassell was a good QB here!!
Maybe the first year will be bad, as far as fans expecting continued brilliance at QB. But as soon as we go through another Hodson/Millen/Zolak merry-go-round, reality will set in.

Until then, I don't really get upset if fans get disappointed because of high expectations.

It's like in real life, there's a certain level of disappointment when someone you think highly off does something malicious compared to if that person was someone you didn't respect.
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I like rodgers but brady would never complain to the media that his scout defense team was not playing with enough intensity. Packers seem to find a lot complaints with the refs and their chemistry and eveyrthing. But he is a great QB no doubt. If brady had one physical receiver who can stretch the field like jennings,nelson or even driver it would be awesome. Lloyd is great but not very big or physical.
Ya know, these QB comparisons don't really say much in the end. Packer fans will tell you that if they had 2 TEs like Gronk and Hernandez plus the OL pass protection that Brady's enjoyed all these years, that Rodgers would be unbelievable, etc, etc.

Brady on the Packers just wouldn't do as well, and Rodgers on the Pats would suffer the same. Problem is, when you say that everybody yells about a "system quarterback." Well every QB is a system quarterback--they adjust to their team and teams build around them.

Rodgers is probably the premier QB in the league...for now. Brees is very close behind and Brady is finishing out an unbelievable career. It may take 3 more seasons and Luck and Griffin III maturing before we see a new crop of truly elite QBs emerging.
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Let Brady have Rodgers' tools, and he'll run circles around that d-bag.

By the same token, put Rodgers with the Pats offense, and you'll see numbers tank.
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You think Brady would have anywhere near those numbers if he was sacked 8 times in the game. No f-n way.
That's the point. Brady wasn't sacked 8 times - just once. Rodgers sucked against the Seahawks - he did not get rid of the ball and he did little with it when he wasn't being dragged to the ground.
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lol, I was talking about watching a QB in his prime verse one whose on the other side of it. And as far as watching Rodgers against Seattle and Chitown, yeah it sucked since Rodgers is my QB in my money league but other than that, he's scored over 30 points in the other four games so I can't complain.

What I saw was a QB who could put the entire team on his back when push comes to shove just like Brady used to. Just made me think about those playoff runs of past years.
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Proud homer here.

I've been going to games and following from the mid-70s. Been through lots of bad, and I'm around still. Never abandoned this team.

That being said, I think this place will get so bad that you're right, I'll be gone.

But I don't think that's what you implied.
No it's not. I'll grant you that you seem authentic. But, personally, I've always believed that a lot more of the homers (especially "raging" homers) are more apt to be bandwagon fans. Essentially, the premise is trouble admitting fault with the team because they began rooting for them due to the Patriots awesome-ness throughout this decade and would have trouble letting go once the team starts on the downward slope. Once it hits the fan, and it becomes apparent that the Pats are once again a long way off from competing (probably post-Brady), they (along with the bandwagoning Chicken Littles) will be the first to go.
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