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Only Brady, Gronk, and Lloyd played more snaps than he did on offense.. that can be scarcely considered "keeping him fresh."
Are you reading my post? The point was that with Edelman playing, Welker can play less.
Now that Edelman is injured Welker must play all snaps. Of course Welker now has a ton of snaps. Edelman can't take any if he's injured.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
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I'm not interested in what you think constitutes "common sense." The fact is Welker did not start in game 1 and only came on strong when Hernandez got injured. As far as we know, Welker did not have any injuries, lingering or otherwise hidden, otherwise the number of snaps he was in wouldn't have spiked when Hernandez went out.
I agree. I also think that Welker didn't start initially because the Patriots were playing the Titans and they were installing the hurry up. The first couple of games it looked like the Patriots were going to Lloyd often to get him integrated into the offense for later in the season.
Are you reading my post? The point was that with Edelman playing, Welker can play less.
Now that Edelman is injured Welker must play all snaps. Of course Welker now has a ton of snaps. Edelman can't take any if he's injured.
This would make a hell of a lot more sense if there weren't other WRs on the roster. Since there are other WRs on the roster, though, it makes essentially none.
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Tempest in a teapot drummed up by rabid local sports radio because there are now TWO of them competing for ratings.
When the Pats are playing well, there's not enough to talk about. "Pats played great! They kicked the ______'s arse! YEAH!" does not make for good ratings. No Ochocinco. No Randy Moss. What else can we stir up?
If the O-line wasn't run-blocking well, we'd all be freaking out (with sportsradio's help) about what's wrong with Ridley or why Brady's throwing so many INT's.
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the idea that welker is or was being phased out is nonsense
the slow start and lack of playing time was likely attributable to being a healthy absent for training camp, and the fact that he was not playing early could have just as easily had to do with being in game shape, or more likely, providing the appearance of principle in the idea that if you don't practice, you don't play.
It is ridiculous to think that the pats would pay 10M to someone they are phasing out.
if that was the case, they would have moved him for a day 2 pick
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Why do you feel they screwed up? Do you have a link to a story, or some sort of behind the scenes knowledge that makes you believe they screwed up? I mean, something credible, not gossip.
1.) Team play suffered
2.) The immediate improvement when the situation reverted and the team game planned appropriately for the new personnel sets.
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edit. Im not starting a p*ssing contest with ya about it. Im seriously wondering if you've heard something, because all i've heard for the past month, has been based on speculation.
Not a problem.... Here's what we know, and I won't include reporter 'hearsay' or 'interpretation' about the preseason
Belichick and McDaniels are both on record pumping Edelman's tires
Welker hardly got any time at all in the exhibition games, and he didn't catch even one pass during that time
The discussion of "formations...." by McDaniels was completely consistent with the substitution work in game one
Welker's snap totals were down significantly in game 1
Welker was running decoy patterns to start the season, while Edelman and Hernandez were getting Welker's old routes
Welker wasn't getting run in game 2 until Hernandez went down
Welker is healthy enough to be catching 13 passes in a game
The running game is able to function quite well with Welker in the lineup
If I've missed any pertinent points, it wasn't on purpose.
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This would make a hell of a lot more sense if there weren't other WRs on the roster. Since there are other WRs on the roster, though, it makes essentially none.
Since no other WR is ready or able to effectively play Welker's routes, your observation is irrelevant.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
Since no other WR is ready or able to effectively play Welker's routes, your observation is irrelevant.
Branch can, and often has, run those same routes.
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The Patriots have been overachievers the past two years. It doesn't have the talent to compensate for injuries, and it wins so much because it puts in 99% effort in the regular season and plays with terrific schemes to mask its deficiencies.
But in the playoffs a good team at 99% will not beat emotional, talented teams that play at 100%. It's what happened against the Giants in 2011 and the Ravens in 2012.
2.) The immediate improvement when the situation reverted and the team game planned appropriately for the new personnel sets.
Not a problem.... Here's what we know, and I won't include reporter 'hearsay' or 'interpretation' about the preseason
Belichick and McDaniels are both on record pumping Edelman's tires
Welker hardly got any time at all in the exhibition games, and he didn't catch even one pass during that time
The discussion of "formations...." by McDaniels was completely consistent with the substitution work in game one
Welker's snap totals were down significantly in game 1
Welker was running decoy patterns to start the season, while Edelman and Hernandez were getting Welker's old routes
Welker wasn't getting run in game 2 until Hernandez went down
Welker is healthy enough to be catching 13 passes in a game
The running game is able to function quite well with Welker in the lineup
If I've missed any pertinent points, it wasn't on purpose.
Welker missed somwehere between 3 days and a week of camp (for what I believe was a death in the family).
You left this out and I think it is a something that is being missed.
Also you might want to include this
Edelman has a great training camp and beats out two Vets Branch and Gaffney for number 3 WR
The reason I think those are 2 key points is so I can now throw my opinion in the mix. And to try and keep it somewhat fact based I will just say it this way.
What seems more likely Wes was being punished and Edelman being rewarded or the Patriots are paying Wes 9 mil to be the back up for one year while they prove they can replace him?
Now I full realize that my opinion is just that as I dont have the facts but I would contend it is much more logical to think he was being punished rather than phased out.
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