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Old 09-21-2012, 09:28 AM   #1
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Is it me or are the Pats at their best when they go empty backfield old style run and shoot offense and allow Brady to sling it. I think slowing the game down and using more standard formations actually plays into the opponent's strategy. I mean if I am the D coordinator I'd much rather see Ridley or Woodhead get the ball on say 3rd and three rather than seeing Brady drop back and throw to his plethora of weapons.

I realize that it gets tighter in the playoffs and of course you have to mix in runs but why not just let Brady sling it? Its worked well for 10 years. Those 3rd down Woodhead runs were annoying.

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At the end of the day, Balance between passing and rushing is the best case scenario. When teams get 1 dimensional, they can be planned for. Plus, our O line isn't up to the task of pass blocking on a continual basis (well not yet).

The run, will keep the defenses honest and lead to bigger plays for the offense in general.
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The game plan should be 60/40 pass to run ratio on a weekly basis.
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Yeah it works a lot of the time, however the O-Line is still a work in progress and Brady is getting older. Using the Run and Shoot is asking for Brady to get teed off on.
An effective run game also helps the defense rest. This is especially important for the D-Lineman like Wilfolk and Jones who play virtually every down.
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Can't they use screens and passes to Welker to basically duplicate the running game? Going no huddle / run and shoot keeps the D on the field and tires them out too. IDK its worked for 10 years and suddenly NE is reinventing itself?

Vs. AZ when they had to pass they were successful. Maybe when Vereen returns they'll do more of that?
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Can't they use screens and passes to Welker to basically duplicate the running game? Going no huddle / run and shoot keeps the D on the field and tires them out too. IDK its worked for 10 years and suddenly NE is reinventing itself?

Vs. AZ when they had to pass they were successful. Maybe when Vereen returns they'll do more of that?
This works against crappy teams, but against the iron of the league it has proved to be unsuccessful. Eventually, we will have to be able to make the Giants, Ravens, 49ers, etc. pay for flooding the field with DBs.
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Yup, it doesn't work against teams that can get to Brady without blitzing.
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Teams finally have 5-6 capable DBs due to the evolution of passing in football in general.

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Is it me or are the Pats at their best when they go empty backfield old style run and shoot offense and allow Brady to sling it. I think slowing the game down and using more standard formations actually plays into the opponent's strategy. I mean if I am the D coordinator I'd much rather see Ridley or Woodhead get the ball on say 3rd and three rather than seeing Brady drop back and throw to his plethora of weapons.

I realize that it gets tighter in the playoffs and of course you have to mix in runs but why not just let Brady sling it? Its worked well for 10 years. Those 3rd down Woodhead runs were annoying.

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What do you mean best? If you mean racking up fantasy points, then yes. If you mean championships, then no. When the Patriots were at their best winning championships they were a balanced team and Brady spread the ball around.
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