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Old 08-17-2012, 06:35 PM   #31
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I'm tempted to say "Ronnie Lott" just on general principles!!

I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again: this guy could be extraordinary.

Not just a Sub Pack/Reserve/Special Teams guy.

A long time starter and an extraordinary one.

With that freakish Athleticism, that insatiable Work Ethic, and what are rapidly becoming clear are phenomenal Processing Speed and Instincts...I say the sky's the limit for this guy.
I will go so far as to say that I think Ebner's upside is higher than Chung's, and I like Chung. But his floor is obviously much, much lower.
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I wonder what Ebner's ceiling is.
Wait until he plays for the Jets. Ray Ray will then let you know that his ceiling is unlimited.
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I'm tempted to say "Ronnie Lott" just on general principles!!

I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again: this guy could be extraordinary.

Not just a Sub Pack/Reserve/Special Teams guy.

A long time starter and an extraordinary one.

With that freakish Athleticism, that insatiable Work Ethic, and what are rapidly becoming clear are phenomenal Processing Speed and Instincts...I say the sky's the limit for this guy.
Seriously, the fun of a prospect like Ebner is that he really came in with no ceiling, and no floor. Given his proven elite physical and mental makeup and near-total lack of football experience, ANYTHING was possible.

So given the way he seems to be shooting up the safety depth chart despite missing a big chunk of camp, and has, what, four INTs in practice so far...it's hard not to start thinking about the good extremes of "anything," eh?
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Yep, I like the flexibility as well as the talent level. With those 21 players, you could field just about any style of defense BB can dream up.

I have a feeling that Cole could slip into the CB roster, too. He seems to offer the best balance of ST impact and actual DB skills.


This is what I am thinking. I think 10 DB's are needed for sub packages and depth due. Ebner's emergence has me thinking that Cole and Ihedgibo are playing for the last DB slot.
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Seriously, the fun of a prospect like Ebner is that he really came in with no ceiling, and no floor. Given his proven elite physical and mental makeup and near-total lack of football experience, ANYTHING was possible.

So given the way he seems to be shooting up the safety depth chart despite missing a big chunk of camp, and has, what, four INTs in practice so far...it's hard not to start thinking about the good extremes of "anything," eh?
Anyone who looks better than the defensive trio of Barrett, Ihedigbo, and Brown (Sergio) is a major upgrade to the New England Patriots defensive secondary.
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Seriously, the fun of a prospect like Ebner is that he really came in with no ceiling, and no floor. Given his proven elite physical and mental makeup and near-total lack of football experience, ANYTHING was possible.

So given the way he seems to be shooting up the safety depth chart despite missing a big chunk of camp, and has, what, four INTs in practice so far...it's hard not to start thinking about the good extremes of "anything," eh?
Ebner was an early binky of mine who I had given up hope on due to his inexperience and lost practice time,

His performance in such a short time has been astounding, and I hope like hell the Pats find a way to keep him on the 53.

It's almost like "The Natural"; a guy who comes out of no where, no one expects anything from, and then he just plays well.

He's going to be fun to watch.
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Ebner was an early binky of mine who I had given up hope on due to his inexperience and lost practice time,

His performance in such a short time has been astounding, and I hope like hell the Pats find a way to keep him on the 53.
I'm right there with you, I thought that missing so many practices would be the kiss of death for the least experienced player on the team (if not in the whole league). Remarkable stuff.
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If BB becomes comfortable with Ebner playing snaps on the field as safety, it'll be all over for the Clueless Three in Barrett, Brown, Ihedigbo. 4 Safeties will be fine. (Chung, Gregory, Wilson, Ebner) It says alot about the clueless 3 when two rookie safeties are outperforming them.
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Ebner was an early binky of mine who I had given up hope on due to his inexperience and lost practice time,

His performance in such a short time has been astounding, and I hope like hell the Pats find a way to keep him on the 53.

It's almost like "The Natural"; a guy who comes out of no where, no one expects anything from, and then he just plays well.

He's going to be fun to watch.
Agree its going to be a great watch. Can't remember a player that had this level of reckless nature on the Pats..
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So given the way he seems to be shooting up the safety depth chart despite missing a big chunk of camp, and has, what, four INTs in practice so far...it's hard not to start thinking about the good extremes of "anything," eh?
He has at least six which I think leads the team and also has a handful of pass breakups as well. And I don't remember hearing about him ever blowing coverages or getting beat for big plays down the field. He's been playing at a very high level for someone who's never played real football in his entire life.
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