BradyManny

Technically it would have to be within the same family - which is why "dynasty" has a different meaning in sports (as it's true meaning would have little relevance, unless of course Ben Brady and Steve Belichick are next in line) and is open to some interpretation.

PatsFanInVa

Just had a horrible thought. Are we going to be the "Sixburgh" fans one day, insisting our 2025 Super Bowl is part of the same Brady/Belichick "dynasty"? (I mean after the next three we win this coming three years of course.)

brdmaverick

While the end result is certainly a huge measure of success, it shouldn't be the only one. Let's face it, if you are a superfan like me every loss during the season stings. It stings for the whole week until the next game is played.

So think about it, the Giants won the Super Bowl after going 9-7. The Patriots lost the Super Bowl after going 13-3. So netting everything out (including Super Bowl), the Giants and their fans suffered a week of defeat three more times than Pats fans. That's three more WEEKS of suffering as fans, almost an entire month. Therefore, one could argue that even though the Giants won the big game, the Patriot's fans had a more enjoyable season.

Of course, I have no defense against the agrument of "A Super Bowl loss doesn't equal just one week of pain, but a whole offeason at the very LEAST". I know I'm not over it yet, but let's just remember that we got to celebrate more victories than they did.

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crew1954

Moss and Welker?

crew1954

What if Brady is HC?

supafly

But we got a nice letter of apology from the NFL in consolation, so that should make up for it, right?

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supafly

I do think the thread is crazy, Pherein. No one should be bringing up 19-0 right now, nor should they if the Pats win the first 10 games either. Let's "worry" about that if it actually comes down to week 14, 15 or so.

As far as the "2 new WR's who have never seen action with the Pats," who? Welker (he signed the franchise tag way back in April or May, and is quite happy about making almost 10 million this year), Gronkowski, and Hernandez will still be the top 3 targets, just as they were last year, only now we actually have a downfield threat again to add to the mix.

All they did was add Llyod, who has major knowledge and success in Josh McDaniel's system as an intermediate/downfield threat to open up the underneath and middle routes more. They also brought back Gaffney (he has amazing chemistry with Brady from prior seasons and is coming off back to back 65-70 catch seasons with the lowly Broncos and Redskins throwing him the ball), and Stallworth (who also succeeded here in his role during the 2007 18-1 season). Those two guys have plenty of experience with all 3 of Brady, Belichick, and McDaniels. The number 4, 5, and 6 targets have certainly improved from last year; especially considering it was Branch, Kid n play, and Ochocinco in 2011.

Add in Fells as the 3rd TE, and an expectation that the RB's will also contribute as last year was the only year in about 7-8 where they didn't catch at least 50+ passes, and the offense is pretty well set again.

If they can keep the QB upright, they should almost certainly be in serious SB competition, as they have improved in many other areas of the offense from last yr's freakshow already.

To wrap it up though, I certainly agree with you that any talk of 19-0 is completely ridiculous at this point. I have a feeling that some folks on the Packers sites are likely doing the same thing though, although that is no excuse either. The Saints will likely be right there in January, just as they usually are too, but no team/fanbase should be squaking about 19-0 right now.

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PatsFanSince74

"crazy?" "insane?" Of course it is!

What the heck else is a fan? It's our natural born right!

And, if you read to the bottom of the definition below, I think that Churchill must have traveled through time and visited Patsfans.com, because he sure is describing many posts in a lot of our threads (see my underline)!

Personally, I'm partial to the definition of the word "fan" that traces its origins to "fanatic."

fanatic (n.)
1520s, "insane person," from L. fanaticus "mad, enthusiastic, inspired by a god," also "furious, mad,"...Meaning "zealous person" is mid-17c. As an adj., in English, 1530s, "furious;" meaning "characterized by excessive enthusiasm,"...

A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. [attributed to Winston Churchill]

PS: Of course Santayana might have also been here, as he once described fanaticism as "redoubling your efforts when you've forgotten your aim." How many of our posts does that describe!?! (mine, of course, included).

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Spergon Wynn

Lets not worry about going 19-0 and just worry about finally getting Tom and Bill their fourth.

pherein

Yeah, I don't think we would ever fathom a perfect season. If 19-0 was ever brought up in our forum I don't think anyone would even post a response,lol. Its just to far fetched for our team.

But, then we are not the Patriots who almost pulled it off, and actually beat the undefeated Dolphins , if your honest about the games played.

Llyod is going to be a perfect addition, and I expect great things from him, and Gaffney has clicked with TB in the past. I respect those outlooks.

But to me its the same as our guys drooling over Adrian Arrington, *Joseph Morgan, *Nick Toon.
Arrington is a Colston look alike, Morgan clicks perfect looks special, Toon has been called equal to Colston by our coaches. I just dont buy it until I see it on the field.
The true strength of the Saints since 2006 has been our offense coaching staff, and its ability to make normal or medicare players play better or at their best, or find diamonds in the rough.
Im not sure Colston would have had been as respected if not for our WR coach. Meachum would have been a bust, and Henderson never would have had a career in the NFL, same as Moore.
P Thomas has a drive you cant quantify, but its hard to see him ever getting a chance, same with Ivory. Most of our Linemen were 6th round drafts.

Most were developed and engineered by the coaching staff. Some just were pissed, like P.Thomas and Moore, with people saying they were to slow and short to make it in the NFL.

I get your coaching staff is better than ours, but I put Lloyd and Gaffney at a starting level. Lloyd is a beast, but so was Meachem when we drafted him, and he couldn't catch a thing for 2 years in our system. We stuck with him, but thats my point. Gaffeny has a history, but that was before

Thats not today.

Im just thinking of those 2 WR and that its pretty impossible to have a 19-0 season without them clicking perfect, without even bringing up defense. Which is a huge ? with you and us.
I have zero doubt BB will field another playoff team.

But projecting 2 super stars at WR's and 19-0? Im just finding that as hard to believe as Moss will make an impact on the SF 49ers, just not seeing it yet.

always love your post supafly. Our season depends on our coaching staff depth now, and not on our player depth. With a full coaching staff this might be the most talented team we have ever had on both sides of the ball. Without SP, and Vitt for 6 games I think were a 10-6 team if lucky.
but if anyone could pull of a 19-0, I would put my money on BB.

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