Brady restructures to save $7.2M against this year's cap - Page 11 - New England Patriots Forums

voluntarysaftey · 03-22-2012, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TyronePoole

The offense sucked in the second half of the SB, I thought that was a much bigger issue than the D giving up TOP and not getting off the field. They had a dog**** D, still only gave up 21 pts and were basically unable to score on 4 straight possessions after the beginning of the 3rd. This with an injured Gronk, Welker, Hernandez, an over the hill Branch and a non existant Ocho Cinco. If they have Lloyd and Wallace they win the game in a blowout imo.

If they were going to spend 9 million + 1st round pick on offense, I'd rathe it be for a top rb, especially since our current 5th receiving option should be pretty good as well -- ie I assume out of stallworth, ocho, edleman, someone will emerge from the fight as solid/good.
Hopefully its ocho since he has the most potential -- I just cant believe his skills would've declined that much, but I can believe he wasnt mentally capable of instinctively learning the offense -- since it seems to be a recurring issue with other wrs here.

DaBronxPats14 · 03-22-2012, 06:28 AM

Sweet! Excellent news, Brady Da Man! Superstar All World QB doing what's right for Pats to win, Along with Kraft & BB. Kudos to this organization for doing what ever it takes.
Hook up that D! Wouldn't mind either Mathis, Osi, J.Allen a Quality DB/S/FS

***Deus Irae*** · 03-22-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Salva135

Now that we have Lloyd, Wallace isn't a sizeable upgrade on the offense. Draft a project WR, absolutely. But... Aside from some depth stuff, Brady has all he damn needs on offense. GIVE HIM SOME DEFENSIVE HELP.

Speaking just to your post, and not to the likelihood of a deal getting done (I've touched on that in another thread somewhere), Wallace would be an enormous upgrade for the offense. The team, as of now, has 4 'receivers' (WR/TE) proven to be worth a damn in the passing game. What is true is that a guy like Wallace would require a lineup of

Gronk
Hernandez
Lloyd
Welker
Wallace

to get them all on the field at the same time, meaning the team would be going without a true RB at those times.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 03-22-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ivanvamp

Haven't read the whole thread so maybe it's been answered. But how on earth could the Pats still have $17-21 million of cap space available after all these signings? I know they were inexpensive, but still...that would be insane. That number can't be right.

It isn't. Like the old adage says, if it sounds too good to be true it usually isn't. Best guesstimates now are we have around $8-9M including the Brady money and guesstimating the last couple of deals.

BSR · 03-22-2012, 07:25 AM

My guess is that they aren't necessarily freeing up money for some big move. I think they are playing around with his contract to move the most dollars into that last year as possible since that will be the year that the cap presumably skyrockets.

Gronkandez · 03-22-2012, 07:46 AM

One of the potential reasons is Brady and Kraft may have had a hand shake deal that Brady would take less money if most of the money was paid up front. This restructure is great for Brady's cash flow and as the OP said, even if the Pats don't use the money this year, they can roll it over to next year.

PS Mike Wallace isn't walking through that door. I'm surprised people are still mentioning his name after the Pats signed 14 WRs this offseason.

BradyManny · 03-22-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

It isn't. Like the old adage says, if it sounds too good to be true it usually isn't. Best guesstimates now are we have around $8-9M including the Brady money and guesstimating the last couple of deals.

That jives with:

New England Patriots Salary Cap 2012

That figure is @ 11 mill, without including Gallery, who I imagine took more than vet min to sign with us.

I originally wanted a Brady restructure until you pointed out some of the pitfalls of it.

This contract might need to be dealt with again at the end of the year. I know you think Brady and his camp won't take a team friendly extension, but it might come to that. Unless the cap does rise dramatically, which may not happen until 2014, things might get awkward - Belichick will not want consecutive 22 milli cap hits. Which is why, ultimately, I'm surprised this came to pass.

What this restructure tells us:

- Ochocinco has survived another day, maybe into camp - maybe not, depending upon how things continue to play out.

- Reports of Matt Light's retirement might have been premature.

- We now have back the space to bring back Carter & Branch now. And maybe even Koppen, but I don't see that as all that necessary.

NinjaZX6R · 03-22-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Brady2Moss

I know this is not the best source, but incarcerated bob is saying wallace is in contract talks with the bengals, patriots, and broncos. The talks with the bengals and patriots are serious. He was right about manning in Denver and a few other things so take it for what its worth.

Incarcerated Bob is an idiot. Dude just throws **** on the wall and hopes one of them sticks.

Dutchmaster617 · 03-22-2012, 07:59 AM

Every year somebody calls Incarcerated Bob a legit source,on various sites. Yet they ignore that he is 'right' 1/10 times.

NinjaZX6R · 03-22-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutchmaster617

Every year somebody calls Incarcerated Bob a legit source,on various sites. Yet they ignore that he is 'right' 1/10 times.

I remember last year when Nnamdi was suppose to be a Jet and all of a sudden, he became an Eagle out of no where. Dude is a hack.