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Centres are deep this year, I say we take one in the 4th or 5th round.
I really like that Dwight Jones kid from NC....great speed, and boy would he stretch the field.
I am not as familiar with corners but I hope BB and the gang seriously entertain that thought and continue to develop Devin and Patrick at saftey.....
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Our best prospect of getting 2012 improvement from the draft is to draft a corner, and have McCourty play free safety. I suspect that Belichick would be fine going into the season with a safety group of Chung, McCourty, Ihedigbo and Barrett.
We now have Arrington, Moore and Dowling at corner, plus the oh so replaceable Molden.
So, Belichick has eight db's to start with. He can afford to draft the best defensive back he can find.
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Originally Posted by Halifax_Pats_Fan
Centres are deep this year, I say we take one in the 4th or 5th round.
I really like that Dwight Jones kid from NC....great speed, and boy would he stretch the field.
I am not as familiar with corners but I hope BB and the gang seriously entertain that thought and continue to develop Devin and Patrick at saftey.....
Our best prospect of getting 2012 improvement from the draft is to draft a corner, and have McCourty play free safety. I suspect that Belichick would be fine going into the season with a safety group of Chung, McCourty, Ihedigbo and Barrett.
We now have Arrington, Moore and Dowling at corner, plus the oh so replaceable Molden.
So, Belichick has eight db's to start with. He can afford to draft the best defensive back he can find.
I think you need more experienced players here.. more rookie DB's will only add to this oft confused bunch.
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Some tough decisions to make as they have quite a few free agents to pay and most of the excess in their cap number will be used up on re-signs.
C-D. Koppen-I'm guessing a 1 or 2 year deal for Koppen, just as Light signed last year.
OL-D. Connolly-They may not be able to keep him as he showed himself to be a good player around the league. If they re-sign koppen they may not be willing to match what Connolly can get elsewhere in a league with a big need for OL.
RB-K. Faulk-I have to think he retires.
RB-BJGE-It will depend on how high the rest of the league is willing to go. i think they really like him but won't go too high to keep him.
WR-W. Welker-Tag and sign.
WR-D. Branch-Vet minimum if he returns.
DL-A. Carter- Returns at a reasonable price. Looking for the ring and loves NE.
DL-S. Ellis-Retires
DL-G. Warren-Just like this season he only comes to NE when they want him.
DL-K. Love-RFA's and ERFA's rarely go anywhere, Love will be back.
LB-G. Guyton- Goodbye
DB-A. Molden, J. Ihedigbo, N. Jones etc.....small deals if any return. I expect movement in the defensive backfield.
I'm sure I missed some but these are the ones in mind right now. I think they like most of their free agents but can't keep them all so there will be changes and it will be interesting to watch how they play it.
I have some wishes in league free agency but it is so hard to tell who will really be available. I'm hoping Belichik responds to the 2011 season like he did 2006 and goes hard to put them oover the top for next year. he will never sell them out long term and knows he has to sign players like Gronkowski, Vollmer, and hernandez in the near future but they also hae the room and ability to go after some top players if they choose to. B. Lloyd would really help and so would D. Goldson but who knows if they come free, and players like C. Campbell will almost certainly be Tagged.
Lloyd, C. Avril, Goldson are among those I would like to see them go after.
So you're belittling Lloyd, who's 30 and playing the best football of his career and has shown he can thrive in the BB/McDaniels system, but you want to bring in a 33 year old Wayne who has started losing the ability to create separation out of his cuts?
I'm not belittling Lloyd. I just don't think he'd be successful here. I think it'd be Ochocinco part two. Reggie Wayne I see being a much better fit as he's a better route runner and is a better red zone receiver.
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BTW, Brady had plenty of success throwing deep to the likes of Givens and Patten. It was the sort of success that won Super Bowls, as a matter of fact.
There's no need to put words in my mouth tbh, I'm sorry you're really angry that I'm critical of Josh McDaniels SB 42 performance. Yes, Brady connected on deep balls with them, I never said he wasn't capable of connecting on deep balls, I said he's had little to no success with deep ball receivers outside of Randy Moss. I wouldn't classify Givens or Patten as a "deep ball receiver".
I'm not belittling Lloyd. I just don't think he'd be successful here. I think it'd be Ochocinco part two. Reggie Wayne I see being a much better fit as he's a better route runner and is a better red zone receiver.
There's no need to put words in my mouth tbh, I'm sorry you're really angry that I'm critical of Josh McDaniels SB 42 performance. Yes, Brady connected on deep balls with them, I never said he wasn't capable of connecting on deep balls, I said he's had little to no success with deep ball receivers outside of Randy Moss. I wouldn't classify Givens or Patten as a "deep ball receiver".
I didn't put words in your mouth. I quoted your post:
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Brady's had little to no success with deep ball receivers not named Randy Moss
Sorry, but you're just clueless. I'll be ignoring you from here on out. It's going to be too long an offseason to waste time on someone who gets pretty much every post wrong.
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BTW, Brady had plenty of success throwing deep to the likes of Givens and Patten. It was the sort of success that won Super Bowls, as a matter of fact.
I didn't put words in your mouth. I quoted your post:
Sorry, but you're just clueless. I'll be ignoring you from here on out. It's going to be too long an offseason to waste time on someone who gets pretty much every post wrong.
Oh *****, he's ignoring me now! I'm gonna go cut myself.
Given that Brady actually won Super Bowls in years where he was using Patten and Givens as his downfield threats, it's not hyperbole at all.
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