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Here's an odd issue I have been dealing with: I've been a season ticket holder for 18 years including every season at Gillette since it opened. During that time I've had one seat upgrade which, lo and behold, placed me amidst seats held by a Boston investment firm run by Ivy League grads and assorted corporate stuffed shirts. That includes about eight seats to my immediate left and another four or so in front of me.
My problem is that this company (which for now will go unnamed) routinely distributes its tix as a perk to clients/employees including (1.) fans of visiting teams and (2.) clueless dweebs who likely believe a football is stuffed with duck feathers. What I'm getting sick of is the revolving door of visiting fans sitting next to me who get likkered up and raise hell whenever Brady gets sacked, their team scores, etc.
So, I finally wrote the company a letter that includes the following:
"Because these tickets are distributed by [said company] as a company perk, their users are not personally invested in respectable behavior as normally would be assumed of private season ticket holders. Particularly egregious is the comportment of fans of visiting teams who often occupy your seats. Alcohol consumption compounds this problem. If you could at least limit your ticket distribution to Patriots fans, it would go a long way toward alleviating this difficulty. I have chosen to write you directly as a courtesy short of involving the Patriots ticket office. If things don’t change, I will extend this complaint to the team."
To which I received a reply today from the firm's chief administrative officer, including:
"Regarding your specific request to limit ticket distribution only to Patriot fans, we cannot agree to do so. Our staff and visitors come from all over the country and often select the games they attend based on the opponent because it’s their one chance so see their favorite team. As a fan I’m sure you can appreciate the desire to stay connected to your home team. Besides, I believe the Patriots, the NFL, and laws protecting free speech and non-discrimination would not want or allow us to take such a position."
Emphasis on the last sentence is mine; an outrageous claim to which I couldn't help but respond to:
"I am confident that 'the Patriots, the NFL and laws protecting free speech and discrimination' have absolutely no bearing on who your company decides to give them to as they're your property. To suggest as much is ludicrous. You can give them to whoever you wish and it certainly is within your rights to limit them to Patriots fans.
Enduring drunken display behavior by fans of visiting teams via [the company] is not my idea of how to enjoy the NFL experience. It also casts your company in a very poor light -- a consideration you might wish to weigh accordingly. I will pursue this matter with the Patriots if things do not improve, as noted in my initial letter. I ask you once again to please give Patriots fans primary consideration in distributing your tickets, ESPECIALLY with the playoffs coming up."
It appears the company doesn't plan to change its way of doing things. Though I haven't contacted the Patriots yet, I also doubt they'd intercede on my behalf, but another seat location change might be a solution. I just thought I'd share this with the board and would like to hear from others having similar experiences at Gillette.
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My friend's STs section 110 share the front row right behind the Pats D with corporate pukes. Every game it's a new group. For the most part they seem to be Patriots fans, but is difficult to tell because they arrive late as the 1st QTR wanes and spend the entire game going back and forth for food. I sit at the end of the row and they're in constant motion back and forth. The love to waddle their fat asses in front of me during a key play. No problem with noise though, as not one of the many varied corporate brown noses has ever been known to cheer or make a sound other than chatting amongst themselves.
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This is known as "bad luck." RAH
I'm surprised they even answered. I'm less surprised that their answer was so stupid.
I don't think the Pats or anyone else will do anything unless there is a rules violation. Try to get someone to punch you, that should take care of it!
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I'm surprised they even answered. I'm less surprised that their answer was so stupid.
I don't think the Pats or anyone else will do anything unless there is a rules violation. Try to get someone to punch you, that should take care of it!
True dat. Or when they get all drunk and stupid call the security line at the Razor. They will get the message quickly.
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Here's an odd issue I have been dealing with: I've been a season ticket holder for 18 years including every season at Gillette since it opened. During that time I've had one seat upgrade which, lo and behold, placed me amidst seats held by a Boston investment firm run by Ivy League grads and assorted corporate stuffed shirts. That includes about eight seats to my immediate left and another four or so in front of me.
My problem is that this company (which for now will go unnamed) routinely distributes its tix as a perk to clients/employees including (1.) fans of visiting teams and (2.) clueless dweebs who likely believe a football is stuffed with duck feathers. What I'm getting sick of is the revolving door of visiting fans sitting next to me who get likkered up and raise hell whenever Brady gets sacked, their team scores, etc.
So, I finally wrote the company a letter that includes the following:
"Because these tickets are distributed by [said company] as a company perk, their users are not personally invested in respectable behavior as normally would be assumed of private season ticket holders. Particularly egregious is the comportment of fans of visiting teams who often occupy your seats. Alcohol consumption compounds this problem. If you could at least limit your ticket distribution to Patriots fans, it would go a long way toward alleviating this difficulty. I have chosen to write you directly as a courtesy short of involving the Patriots ticket office. If things don’t change, I will extend this complaint to the team."
To which I received a reply today from the firm's chief administrative officer, including:
"Regarding your specific request to limit ticket distribution only to Patriot fans, we cannot agree to do so. Our staff and visitors come from all over the country and often select the games they attend based on the opponent because it’s their one chance so see their favorite team. As a fan I’m sure you can appreciate the desire to stay connected to your home team. Besides, I believe the Patriots, the NFL, and laws protecting free speech and non-discrimination would not want or allow us to take such a position."
Emphasis on the last sentence is mine; an outrageous claim to which I couldn't help but respond to:
"I am confident that 'the Patriots, the NFL and laws protecting free speech and discrimination' have absolutely no bearing on who your company decides to give them to as they're your property. To suggest as much is ludicrous. You can give them to whoever you wish and it certainly is within your rights to limit them to Patriots fans.
Enduring drunken display behavior by fans of visiting teams via [the company] is not my idea of how to enjoy the NFL experience. It also casts your company in a very poor light -- a consideration you might wish to weigh accordingly. I will pursue this matter with the Patriots if things do not improve, as noted in my initial letter. I ask you once again to please give Patriots fans primary consideration in distributing your tickets, ESPECIALLY with the playoffs coming up."
It appears the company doesn't plan to change its way of doing things. Though I haven't contacted the Patriots yet, I also doubt they'd intercede on my behalf, but another seat location change might be a solution. I just thought I'd share this with the board and would like to hear from others having similar experiences at Gillette.
I feel your pain, Tune. I think a seat upgrade is your only answer, though. We've had obnoxious fans hauled out by security before (mostly away fans, but a few drunk Pats fans in there too), but why do you want to increase your blood pressure that way (i.e. having to report drunken louts all the time). I don't think the Pats are going to help you out as the company's money for multiple seats is worth more to them (unfortunately) than your lonely loyal dollars. Ask for Section 236 if you decide to move - we get very few interlopers and the guys in the last row behind me can "out-obnoxious" anyone who shows up.
Case in point, there was a lady in the row in front of me who was a Dolphins fan this past weekend and she kept screaming her head off for REGGIE Bush. Everyone around her, particularly our resident louts, started imitating her, and when he was dropped for a loss a couple of times, everyone let her have it. She was gone by half-time.
Obviously the person that responded does not have the slightest clue of what is and is not discrimination, and what is and is not freedom of speech. It is amazing that a presumably large and profitable corporation would allow someone with such little knowledge of these matters, and such little tact to respond and represent their organization.
Perhaps you should find out who his supervisor is and ask him if everyone in that company has such poor understanding on those matters. The company way also need to be reminded of the Patriots Fan Code Of Conduct.
Personally I would have long ago began sending a text to 78247 on a regular basis, and even tried to recruit some others near you to do the same whenever one of them got on your nerves. I also would have asked the Pats to relocate your seats with an explanation as to why your game-day experiences are not as positive as they should be. If I had to make the choice I'd rather be a bit further away from the field with more Pats fans than in those seats.
Lastly, based on the response you received it does not appear that this investment firm is the least bit concerned about public relations. Since that is the case I see no reason for you to protect them and hide their identity.
I say let's let this company find out about freedom of speech firsthand!