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Old 12-12-2011, 03:53 AM   #1
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Probably not a big news flash but the #1 seed is almost unattainable. We would need Balt, Pitt and Houston all to lose 1 more game while winning our remaining three. Their remaining schedules are not helpful:

Pitt - SF, St Louis, Cleve (SF is the only non long shot)
Balt - SD, Cleve, Cincy (Which SD shows up?)
Houston - Car,Indy,Tenn (Car win's a shootout with Houston?)

No matter how you slice it, the odds are very steep for all 3 to lose 1 remaining game. The best hope is for Houston to lose and we grab the #2.

Obviously the 1 wild card is determined (Pitt or Balt). The Jets hold the other. However, the Jets are in Philly with Vick back, a half home game versus the Giants, and at Miami where the Phins will be playing hard as possible against a hated rival (playing with nothing to lose). Of all the teams in the hunt, the Jets probably have the toughest week to week schedule. If the Jets lose just one, both Oakland and Tenn have the inside track to edge out the Jets (IF either team can win out). If that Jets loss is to an AFC team, Cincy also holds the tie break if they win out (Cincy may still win out on a lesser tie break even if the loss is non AFC). Arguably, the Jets need to win out or they have to have help from 3 teams.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:58 AM   #2
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Probably not a big news flash but the #1 seed is almost unattainable. We would need Balt, Pitt and Houston all to lose 1 more game while winning our remaining three. Their remaining schedules are not helpful:

Pitt - SF, St Louis, Cleve (SF is the only non long shot)
Balt - SD, Cleve, Cincy (Which SD shows up?)
Houston - Car,Indy,Tenn (Car win's a shootout with Houston?)

No matter how you slice it, the odds are very steep for all 3 to lose 1 remaining game. The best hope is for Houston to lose and we grab the #2.

Obviously the 1 wild card is determined (Pitt or Balt). The Jets hold the other. However, the Jets are in Philly with Vick back, a half home game versus the Giants, and at Miami where the Phins will be playing hard as possible against a hated rival (playing with nothing to lose). Of all the teams in the hunt, the Jets probably have the toughest week to week schedule. If the Jets lose just one, both Oakland and Tenn have the inside track to edge out the Jets (IF either team can win out). If that Jets loss is to an AFC team, Cincy also holds the tie break if they win out (Cincy may still win out on a lesser tie break even if the loss is non AFC). Arguably, the Jets need to win out or they have to have help from 3 teams.
No, we only need Pitt and Balt to lose. We will be above Houston if we win out.
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I'll take no 2.
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I'll take no 2.
As will I!
  • The #2 seed has been historically kind to the Pats
  • If they play well, the bye will be sufficient, if not, seeding is irrelevant
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If one of Pitt or Balt is #1 and the other wins a wild card game, the #2 seed would actually be better to have than the #1.
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No, we only need Pitt and Balt to lose. We will be above Houston if we win out.
Pitt and Baltimore both travel to the west coast this week. Both are capable of losing. Pitt at SF and Balt at SD. We're at a tough venue Denver against the messiah. We have a tough tone too. I think this week goes a long way towards determining the seeding. Don't see us losing either of the last two at home.
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Well, they had the one seed last year, with everything set up basically perfect, with the only playoff teams remaining being the ones they had already beat earlier in the year, and they still lost, so I'm just more concerned about them getting in.
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Those teams can definately lose one.

And right now the way we have played the last few weeks i'll be happy with the bye.
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c'mon Cam Newton! He needs to play lights out next week and beat the Texans

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well, I wouldn't say unattainable (although certainly on our own merits based on our defense it is unattainable).

I can easily see a scenario where it works:

1. Pitt loses to SF next week.

Hou loses to a rambling cam newton vs carolina next week as well.
(he put up 23 on Atl and if he protects the football he can put up more points than the hurting Hou offense can keep up with.)

& then in week 17 Balt just doesnt care vs a desperate Cincy in the last week. Because they are one up with tie-breakers over Pitt and up on Houston for the 2 seed regardless. So they let cincy have one (if they put up a fight) or just because they dont want to see the 5 seeded Pitt again.

But all in all; I would trade a 1/2 seed for a defense that acts like it can shut some folks down the next 3 weeks.

The WORST part of the poor D is the rep it gives the team. NOBODY will believe they have lost the game against the Pats if they are down by 3 scores in the 3rd. They will all think; 'hell Indy put up 21; we can put up 30.' So you don't give yourself any easy games (or halfs).
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