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Old 11-21-2011, 11:08 PM   #31
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Aaron Rodgers would destroy this defense in the Super Bowl. Pats better hope the Pack don't make it there
The packers are so deeply flawed it's insane. Their cupcake schedule is going to hit some bumps in the very near future. I'd be shocked if they made the Superbowl...and if they do, my god would I love a crack at 'em.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:10 PM   #32
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Like Deus said

the defense is bad. The coaches just exploit match ups.
So they are a bad defense executing like a top 10 defense because of their coach. Who cares? It is all semantics.

The fact of the matter is this is a group of players who are very coachable and willing to do what it takes to win whether it is best for them individually or not. That is far more valuable than people think.

You see a team like the Jets who are a bunch of individuals with guys like Santonio Holmes (yeah, I know he is an offensive player, but he is the best example of a talented individual) cares about how many balls thrown in his direction rather than win the game. I'll take a guy like Kyle Arrington who might not be the best CB out there, but he does what his coaches tell him and he is constantly in a position to make key interceptions.
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Only a fool would call this a top 10 defense
Only a fool would continue to post the type of BS you churn out of your @$$ everytime you touch your keyboard. Why the fcuk are you so miserable? 34-3 isn't good enough for you? Are there therapists in your area code?
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C'mon! What are you talking about. The Pats almost lost tonight because they gave up 334 yards and only scored 380 yards. It was a real nail biter tonight.
we shouldn't count the 3 INT's either because thats another bogus stat of course.

points allowed and turn overs, 2 useless stats
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Agreed

But if you could take any defenses in the league, and let Belichick coach them for a year, do you really think this unit is better than 22 other units?

Get real
Why should I care? So they award some sort of trophy for that??
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Once again, we see the impact good coaching can make.
But isn't BB becoming senile, acting without forethought and impulsively, and should be stripped of power by Kraft if not fired?
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We are a top 10 defense. Being in the top 10 in points allowed and turnovers are both important indicators. Red zone scoring defense is also an important indicator. Belichick has always believed that yards allowed means nothing. His stats in points allowed have been better for ALL his 17 years of coaches.

However, if we play as well all game next week as we did in the first half next week, we'll likely lose. The offense was awful in the first half.
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The packers are so deeply flawed it's insane. Their cupcake schedule is going to hit some bumps in the very near future. I'd be shocked if they made the Superbowl...and if they do, my god would I love a crack at 'em.
You sound like a Pats hater from 2007. The Packers are going 16-0 whether you like it or not... personally I think they will win it all

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The defense is bad. The coaching is excellent. It's all a matter of matchups and what the coaches can cover up for.
In all seriousness, you're absolutely right. A perennial contender in the NFL is a coach and coaching staff that takes the pieces of his team and places them in an optimum position to win. The Patriots over the BB years have routinely beaten teams that had more talent. However, this year, if they make a serious run at the SB, will be the crowned jewel of BB's coaching performance.

I still have a hard time with the equation that equals a serious championship run -- with this secondary -- but it will be supremely grand if it does happen.
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You sound like a Pats hater from 2007. The Packers are going 16-0 whether you like it or not... personally I think they will win it all
I was listening to a discussion the other day that basically said for the Packers to go 19-0 they would have won 25 games in a row.
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