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Old 05-10-2008, 09:05 PM   #1
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Default Are we being set up again for more punishment due to offensive taping?

Since the news first broke that there was nothing new last week....each day the media haters continue to try to find something.

The latest that continues to grow every day now is the OFFENSIVE signal taping.

There are many cries for additional punishment because of it now....

1) Daily News

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NFL could fine Patriots again after 'spygate' tapes reveal they stole Miami Dolphins offensive signals
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1781

2) NY Times:

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But did that admission include the taping of both defensive and offensive signals?

In the statement the league released after it reached a legal agreement with Walsh, the N.F.L. said that Goodell had determined “the Patriots had violated league rules by videotaping opposing coaches’ defensive signals” throughout Belichick’s tenure as head coach.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/sp...all/10nfl.html

This all may come down to whether or not BB did indeed tell Goodell taping had occurred on both sides. If indeed he did, then once again, why the "F" doesn't Goodell simply have a quick statement confirming the Patriots had admitted to both.

Does anybody know if it was originally noted?

Mark my words - your papers are going to be filled with stories clamoring for more punishment and/or suspensions.

Man oh man - Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.

PS - if you really want to see how NY hatred is portrayed...read this beauty also from the NY Times with the usual chicken chit " unnamed NFL Executive":

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In discussions of changes since 2000, one team, the New England Patriots, has surfaced more than any other, according to a longtime N.F.L. team executive with direct knowledge of the meetings.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/sp...ts&oref=slogin
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:11 PM   #2
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We'd better not be as offensive and defensive signals are the same rule. Additionally they aren't inherently different. Videotaping signals is videotaping signals. What Belichick told Jolly Roger, who knows, but he would be a little girl (Roger not Bill) if he punished us more because of words not actions.
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Here is what the Haters would like to see:

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on passing plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from teh Jets offfense on running plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on third and long plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on third and short plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on goal-to-go plays.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on plays needing more than ten yards for a first down.

One first round draft pick for stealing from the Jets offfense on plays needing more than twnety yards for a first down.

Repeat all the above for plays run in the final two minutes of a half and the final two minutes of the game.

Repeat all the above, substituting defense for offense.

Repeat all the above for all the teams on Walsh's tapes.

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Since the news first broke that there was nothing new last week....each day the media haters continue to try to find something.

The latest that continues to grow every day now is the OFFENSIVE signal taping.

There are many cries for additional punishment because of it now....

1) Daily News

"NFL could fine Patriots again after 'spygate' tapes reveal they stole Miami Dolphins offensive signals"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1781

2) NY Times:


"But did that admission include the taping of both defensive and offensive signals?
In the statement the league released after it reached a legal agreement with Walsh, the N.F.L. said that Goodell had determined “the Patriots had violated league rules by videotaping opposing coaches’ defensive signals” throughout Belichick’s tenure as head coach."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/sp...all/10nfl.html



This all may come down to whether or not BB did indeed tell Goodell taping had occurred on both sides. If indeed he did, then once again, why the "F" doesn't Goodell simply have a quick statement confirming the Patriots had admitted to both.

Does anybody know if it was originally noted?

Mark my words - your papers are going to be filled with stories clamoring for more punishment and/or suspensions.

Man oh man - Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.


PS - if you really want to see how NY hatred is portrayed...read this beauty also from the NY Times with the usual chicken chit " unnamed NFL Executive":

. "In discussions of changes since 2000, one team, the New England Patriots, has surfaced more than any other, according to a longtime N.F.L. team executive with direct knowledge of the meetings."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/sp...ts&oref=slogin
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Greg Aiello said on Friday that the penalty that the Patriots were punished for covered both defensive and offensive signals. Unless there is something else on the tapes that no one knows about, the Patriots will not be penalized.

As for the media, this just shows the fact that the media do not want to be fair and balanced. All they want is blood. The media wanted a tape of the Rams' walkthrough. Since all they got were more examples of things the Pats have been punished for, they are trying to manufacture a scandal by splitting hairs between offensive and defensive signals.

Face it. Spygate has been a profit center for the media most importantly to the newspaper industry that has been hit on hard times. Saying the Spygate saga is over is not good for business. Splitting hairs to try to manufacturer new potential examples of "cheating" is good for business.

Unfortunately, the media has done such a good job painting a picture of the Patriots being evil that most people around the country can't see the god-awful yellow journalism the media has been spewing in this case. It is really getting really pathetic at this point.
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Please see my poll to see how I feel , again we should not, nor do I feel we be punished...
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Who cares?
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As for the media, this just shows the fact that the media do not want to be fair and balanced. All they want is blood. The media wanted a tape of the Rams' walkthrough. Since all they got were more examples of things the Pats have been punished for, they are trying to manufacture a scandal by splitting hairs between offensive and defensive signals.
That, or their all lazy bastards, then again it could be both.
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This should be interesting if they try it

The NFL would be penalizing the Patriots for violating a 2006 rule in 2001.

Do I need to expand on that fallacy further? Perhaps I do, as a good number of writers, fans, US Senators and potentially NFL officials fail to see anything odd about that.
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Since the news first broke that there was nothing new last week....each day the media haters continue to try to find something.

The latest that continues to grow every day now is the OFFENSIVE signal taping.

There are many cries for additional punishment because of it now....

1) Daily News

"NFL could fine Patriots again after 'spygate' tapes reveal they stole Miami Dolphins offensive signals"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1781

2) NY Times:


"But did that admission include the taping of both defensive and offensive signals?
In the statement the league released after it reached a legal agreement with Walsh, the N.F.L. said that Goodell had determined “the Patriots had violated league rules by videotaping opposing coaches’ defensive signals” throughout Belichick’s tenure as head coach."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/sp...all/10nfl.html



This all may come down to whether or not BB did indeed tell Goodell taping had occurred on both sides. If indeed he did, then once again, why the "F" doesn't Goodell simply have a quick statement confirming the Patriots had admitted to both.

Does anybody know if it was originally noted?

Mark my words - your papers are going to be filled with stories clamoring for more punishment and/or suspensions.

Man oh man - Tuesday cannot get here soon enough.


PS - if you really want to see how NY hatred is portrayed...read this beauty also from the NY Times with the usual chicken chit " unnamed NFL Executive":

. "In discussions of changes since 2000, one team, the New England Patriots, has surfaced more than any other, according to a longtime N.F.L. team executive with direct knowledge of the meetings."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/sp...ts&oref=slogin
Please tell me you're not seriously worried about the offensive signals crap fgssand!

Don't you even read the threads here? Try this one...

from Florio aka The Sprint Phone Pimp:

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"So there’s really nothing to it. And, as others have pointed out, the rule that the Pats broke relates to taping generally, not to the taping of offensive or defensive signals. Thus, the presence of one tape with “offensive signals” doesn’t constitute the kind of new evidence that will land the team or coach Bill Belichick in a fresh vat of boiling water.
(INSERT OBLIGATORY SPRINT PHONE BALLSUCKING REFERENCE HERE)

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We know that plenty of folks who don’t like the Patriots and/or media figures who want to see a compelling story fill the slow months because now and July hope that some previously undisclosed proof of cheating will emerge. If it does, it most likely won’t come from the Walsh tape with the “offensive signals.”
Chill My Friends: This Offensive Signals stuff is NOTHING to worry about

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

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