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Old 08-12-2011, 03:25 PM   #21
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Not to knitpick, but it would be just be DT, they aren't left and right tackles, and its weak/strong in the 43.
He's got it right I think. If you look at the defensive playbook for Belichick's 1997 Jets, they have LDT and RDT and ROLB and LOLB in the defensive huddle, and LDT and RDT on the field. It gets confusing because when the defensive sets up, they call strong/weak for the linebackers and ROLB and LOLB become Sam and Will accordingly, but they don't switch sides.
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He's got it right I think. If you look at the defensive playbook for Belichick's 1997 Jets, they have LDT and RDT and ROLB and LOLB in the defensive huddle, and LDT and RDT on the field. It gets confusing because when the defensive sets up, they call strong/weak for the linebackers and ROLB and LOLB become Sam and Will accordingly, but they don't switch sides.
I didn't realize we were running the Jets' 1997 defense...

Seriously, it all depends on personnel and the game plan. For example, you'll see the Pats' ILBs switch sides quite often based on strength. Not so much the OLBs because it's a hell of a long way to run when a TE goes in motion....

Yesterday, they were clearly putting Nink in a traditional Sam role where he lines up on the LOS over the TE and Guyton was in a typical Wil role off the LOS...
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Guyton, for all his warts I think is our best cover LB. Spikes is built for MLB in a 4-3 and Mayo will wreak ***** as a WLB. I think Fletcher, as good as he looked last night, won't get too many starts. But I'm sure BB will give him plenty of PT if Fletcher keeps his level of play pretty high. Loved the way he didn't hesitate whatsoever when he saw an opening.
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Not to knitpick, but it would be just be DT, they aren't left and right tackles, and its weak/strong in the 43.
At least last night when I looked, it was all left and right. There wasn't any switching based on strong and weak. But yes, left is basically equivalent to strong and right to weak.
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While Fletcher played well, you guys are way too high on him. He's got special teamer written all over him. And he looks a bit... light. Maybe another year in the weight room?
Seriously, a starter? We'll see.
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While Fletcher played well, you guys are way too high on him. He's got special teamer written all over him. And he looks a bit... light. Maybe another year in the weight room?
Seriously, a starter? We'll see.
He was 248 in June, probably playing around that now. He was probably closer to 240 as a rookie.
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You want a personnel grouping that could also play a 3-4.

  • DL Wilfork/Haynesworth/Ellis
  • DL/LB Cunningham
  • LB Mayo/Spikes/Ninko

meets that standard.

G. Warren and Fletcher are in the mix to be top "breather" subs, as well as to pick off some regular sub-package roles.

Wright, Moore, Anderson, and Guyton are in the mix for specific sub roles. They all have excellent chances of making the roster, but stand at risk of losing out on snaps (Wright least so).

Love has a good chance at making the roster as Wilfork's backup, and of getting a few "breather" snaps as a game-day active (especially once the injuries start and everybody healthy is a game-day active, irrespective of position).

Brace and Deaderick are on PUP looking in.

Other youngsters have various levels of longshot chances of making the roster, mainly ahead of guys I've already named.

I haven't a clue about the older Carter.
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Elite pass rusher as a 4-3 end, but don't ask him to play OLB.
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Likely to beat out Anderson?
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While Fletcher played well, you guys are way too high on him. He's got special teamer written all over him. And he looks a bit... light. Maybe another year in the weight room?
Seriously, a starter? We'll see.
He looks like he belongs. I'm not sure what you're watching.
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