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Old 08-08-2011, 09:02 PM   #41
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A bit of background for newbies to this subject matter:

Whatever the New Jersey Green Beans (Jets) do on the field -- win, lose or draw -- is NOT the ultimate barometer of their loathsome suckage. It starts at the top with their slimy weasel of an owner (the unfortunately named Woody Johnson). From there, it trickles down to morally bankrupt GM Tannen-bum, carnival barker/foot fetishist Jabba Wrecks and his crooked coaching staff. The next layer of organized suckiness, of course, is the players -- a bizarre collection of misfits, criminals and strange mental cases including the likes of Antonio Cromartie (population exploder), Bart Scott (compulsive gums flapper), LaClassian Tomlinson (supreme egotist), Li'l Marky Sanchez (high school girls love him, and vice versa), Santonio Holmes (drug abuser, mental midget, etc.), and Plexiglas Furnace (convicted gun goofball/confirmed moron). Those are only the primary offenders. Last but certainly not least, you have one of the suckiest fan bases in all of professional sports -- a motley gaggle of terminally immature, boorish, delusional lost souls who know very, very little about football.

This is only a very basic primer on NJGB suckology. Unfortunately, there is much more to come.
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So you would trade something for NOTHING....you'll go far in life employing THAT concept....
I don't recall ever saying that. What I said was that I would rather finish 10-6 and win the SB then finish, I don't know lets say 16-0 and lose in the SB. While it's nice that we finished 1st in the division, I would have have rather finished 2nd, and beat the jets in the playoffs. Is that weird?
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I didn't realize there was a technical term for "team to beat" But the Jets are the team we have to beat in the division to get somewhere, So in my eyes they are the team to beat.I would trade all the division titles for more playoff W's. Because those are the W's that count most. And the Jets have more of them the past couple years.
THAT is what you posted. THAT is pretty damned specific. You think playoff wins count for something. That is erroneous. Only a Super Bowl win counts for anything in the playoffs. In the regular season, finishing first in your division is what counts. The Patriots did that last season. The beat out the team they had to to do it.So you're wrong on THAT count too....but go ahead, keep thinking playoff failure(which IS what it is if you don't win the Bowl) is the only thing that matters.In fact, let's just crapcan the regular season and jump right to the playoffs from now on and give trophies to all the losers....what a concept
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I didn't realize there was a technical term for "team to beat" But the Jets are the team we have to beat in the division to get somewhere, So in my eyes they are the team to beat. I would trade all the division titles for more playoff W's. Because those are the W's that count most. And the Jets have more of them the past couple years.
The Patriots don't have to beat the Jets to become division winner. They're already that. They also don't necessarily have to beat the Jets to get to the AFCCG, since that's a matter of seeding.

"Team to beat" usually refers to the team that won something the year before or the team that is the favorite to win something in the year at hand. In both cases, it's the Patriots, not the Jets, that fit the bill, as the Patriots won the division and are the favorites to win the AFC.

Using your logic, one could just as easily say that the Ravens are the team to beat.
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THAT is what you posted. THAT is pretty damned specific. You think playoff wins count for something. That is erroneous. Only a Super Bowl win counts for anything in the playoffs. In the regular season, finishing first in your division is what counts. The Patriots did that last season. The beat out the team they had to to do it.So you're wrong on THAT count too....but go ahead, keep thinking playoff failure(which IS what it is if you don't win the Bowl) is the only thing that matters.In fact, let's just crapcan the regular season and jump right to the playoffs from now on and give trophies to all the losers....what a concept
And how do you get to the Super Bowl? By winning playoff games. Not AFC East division titles. What is a great regular season if you can't win in the playoffs? What you are telling me is that you are OK with how last season ended, with the Jets beating the Pats in the playoffs. All because we had a better regular season. I personally just can't buy into that philosophy. I however won't sit here and tell you're wrong for that.
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The Patriots don't have to beat the Jets to become division winner. They're already that. They also don't necessarily have to beat the Jets to get to the AFCCG, since that's a matter of seeding.

"Team to beat" usually refers to the team that won something the year before or the team that is the favorite to win something in the year at hand. In both cases, it's the Patriots, not the Jets, that fit the bill, as the Patriots won the division and are the favorites to win the AFC.

Using your logic, one could just as easily say that the Ravens are the team to beat.
So we are in agreement that there is no technical term for "team to beat" and it's all a matter of preference. The Jets beat us in the most important game of our season last year. In my opinion, that makes them the team to beat, we have to prove that we can beat them when it counts.
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I don't recall ever saying that. What I said was that I would rather finish 10-6 and win the SB then finish, I don't know lets say 16-0 and lose in the SB. While it's nice that we finished 1st in the division, I would have have rather finished 2nd, and beat the jets in the playoffs. Is that weird?
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