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Old 06-15-2011, 05:37 PM   #1
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If the patriots win another ring with brady at the helm (or two more), what would it do for brady's legacy?

Hell, what would it do for belichicks?

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It would increase his legacy by 33.3333% by my calculations.
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If the patriots win another ring with brady at the helm (or two more), what would it do for brady's legacy?

Hell, what would it do for belichicks?

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There would be much more debate whether he or Montana is the GOAT. Most people will still say Montana though, if TFB wins a 5th ring that should pretty much settle it.
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G.o.a.t.!!!!
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1. I think it would, once and for all, distance him from Peyton Manning. How could it not? For all Peyton's statistical accolades, he's only been able to obtain one ring.

2. It may very well remove that little black cloud that has hung over New England since losing Adam Vinateri to the Colts in free agency, SpyGate and 2007 loss to the Giants.

3. For Belichick, I think he will solidify his spot in the top 5 NFL coaches of all time and challenge Lombari for the 3rd spot on the All Time list.
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Would help us put behind spygate and make Brady #1 imo.

Had he completed the perfect season he would already be #1.
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1. I think it would, once and for all, distance him from Peyton Manning. How could it not? For all Peyton's statistical accolades, he's only been able to obtain one ring.

2. It may very well remove that little black cloud that has hung over New England since losing Adam Vinateri to the Colts in free agency, SpyGate and 2007 loss to the Giants.

3. For Belichick, I think he will solidify his spot in the top 5 NFL coaches of all time and challenge Lombari for the 3rd spot on the All Time list.
What is your top 5 and what 2 do you have above BB and VL?
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I'd prefer if you changed the word "if" to "when".
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1. I think it would, once and for all, distance him from Peyton Manning. How could it not? For all Peyton's statistical accolades, he's only been able to obtain one ring.

2. It may very well remove that little black cloud that has hung over New England since losing Adam Vinateri to the Colts in free agency, SpyGate and 2007 loss to the Giants.

3. For Belichick, I think he will solidify his spot in the top 5 NFL coaches of all time and challenge Lombari for the 3rd spot on the All Time list.
It would distance him from everyone. Ditto Belichick who already has a fist full of rings counting his two as a DC (the game plan for one of which is already enshrined).

And if 18-1 and 11-5 after losing the franchise for an entire season and 14-2 and a league MVP constitute your idea of a black cloud, god help you if they ever land under a real one with actual dire consequences again once these two retire.

Basically these two have it all now. Whatever remains is icing on their cakes.
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One more for Beli should cement his status as GOAT. Knoll also has four, but BB's doing it in an era of free agency and salary cap. Even now, Beli should be considered top 3 in any GOAT NFL coaching list along with Knoll and Walsh.

Brady, IMO needs at least two more to be GOAT status. Montana and Bradshaw have 4 each. But only Montana is really considered between the two when GOAT discussion is taking place. I think the main reason is that most people perceive Bradshaw to be just a spare part of the Steelers machine when they were winning. Unlike Montana, who was the main catalyst for the 49ers winning all 4 of their championships. The main reason why I think Brady needs at least two more is because the first championship he won, his role was similar to that of Bradshaw in those Steeler teams where he wasn't the main guy they called on from game to game to win. In 03 and 04, he was Joe Montana for us and has been to our success ever since. Two more SB wins would cement his status as GOAT.
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