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Old 05-01-2011, 09:32 AM   #51
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For all those that say you/we don't mead a pass rush just go back to the game day threads from the last couple of years. You'll probably find yourself complaining about the opposing QB having to much time and not having a pass rush and how the we need one. And that we have to find one. What your doing now is rationalizing
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Old 05-01-2011, 09:40 AM   #52
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Man, how wrong can you possibly be in a such a short post?

First, 1 year of Seymour for potentially 10 years of top caliber LT. You wouldn't make that trade?

Second, Belichick didn't defer on the offer of a Raiders first last year. Where are you getting your info from?
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Why would you expect correct info to matter to that guy?

In a QB driven league, the second most important position is the franchise left tackle.

Anybody who would rather have a DE over a franchise left tackle is completely clueless.

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For all those that say you/we don't mead a pass rush just go back to the game day threads from the last couple of years. You'll probably find yourself complaining about the opposing QB having to much time and not having a pass rush and how the we need one. And that we have to find one. What your doing now is rationalizing
Personally, I've always found it more of a scheme problem, why give receivers big cushions and not get up in their faces and bump them? Why not one gap and run stunts & crosses? Why not send a blitz straight down the middle with Mayo & Spikes crossing and Merriweather or Chung coming straight through one of the gaps created there?

Sure some of it is down to who's on the field, but there's enough talent to generate a pass rush without relying on OLB's all the time. The best way to rush the passer, imo, is confusion, confuse the QB, confuse the O line make them miss assignments, you don't need elite level players to do this.
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And i stand by it. The Jets are ****ty example because they are allowed so much flexibility on defense thanks to 1 player. It involves Darrelle Revis completely eliminating any given receiver from the field. The Jets can basically count on the ball not going his way. That is a big luxury that no other team has and the Jets have enough talent on other positions to take advantage of it.
However, the facts disagree with that. Revis was one of the most thrown at corners in the NFL in 2009. He was successful when thrown at but to say half the field is eliminated is wrong.
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Personally, I've always found it more of a scheme problem, why give receivers big cushions and not get up in their faces and bump them? Why not one gap and run stunts & crosses? Why not send a blitz straight down the middle with Mayo & Spikes crossing and Merriweather or Chung coming straight through one of the gaps created there?

Sure some of it is down to who's on the field, but there's enough talent to generate a pass rush without relying on OLB's all the time. The best way to rush the passer, imo, is confusion, confuse the QB, confuse the O line make them miss assignments, you don't need elite level players to do this.
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Because our system wins games.
It's also very frustrating to watch, how many 3rd & longs do the team give up?

The yards per game and sacks I don't care about so much, they're just stats, but 3rd down stops and QB pressures/hurries need to be generated a lot more than the last couple of years.

A way to do this without going down the path of getting 1 elite pass rusher to do it all for you is to create confusion and show multiple and confusing fronts.
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11) I think I'll trust my GM and my head coach more than I trust you armchair evaluators. when my HC and GM has proven to be the best in the business

12) If you question any of the team's moves, you aren't a true fan

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I have never, ever said that, and I challenge you to find me ever saying it.
I have absolutely no problem with questioning any decision, but the posts decree the decision wrong before the player has hit the field, which are based on lacking the majority of the knowledge necessary to make it, and the skill to evaluate it if you had it, is foolhardy.
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It's also very frustrating to watch, how many 3rd & longs do the team give up?
Its more frustrating to allow big plays, points and lose games.

The yards per game and sacks I don't care about so much, they're just stats, but 3rd down stops and QB pressures/hurries need to be generated a lot more than the last couple of years.[/quote]
Those are just stats too.
So are big plays allowed, leads given up, and point allowed, and wins.
You are almost saying that you would rather give up big plays and more points and lose than to play a more effective, more conservative defense that allows some plays along the way.

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A way to do this without going down the path of getting 1 elite pass rusher to do it all for you is to create confusion and show multiple and confusing fronts.
That is a very risky approach. You cannot take all of the advantages of a conservative philosophy then say, keep doing that but get crazy aggressive and not lose the strengths you have.
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However, the facts disagree with that. Revis was one of the most thrown at corners in the NFL in 2009. He was successful when thrown at but to say half the field is eliminated is wrong.
Umm....you are more likely going to have an incompletion/interception than a completion when throwing to his side. Peyton Manning targeted Wayne just once and for 1 yard during the playoff game if i'm not mistaken. Safe to say it's as close to eliminated as can be.
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The biggest defensive reason for our losses has been not being able to stop the pass, even against rookies and supposedly poor QBs. Dowling should help out on this.

The biggest offensive reason for our not winning has been high dependence on TB coupled with the o-line being sub par against top flight defensive lines. Hope Solder and Cannon help with this problem. That should make the team better.

I think we should have done some more about the first problem rather than trading out of picks/picking up running backs. I hope that BB is going to do something about it in FA and I believe that he will, although recently he seems to have shied away from that approach. It is a glaring weakness and it would be wild to think that BB doesn't see it that way. If we continue to ignore it, I am afraid we will perennially be two years away from the superbowl.
You can't really isolate the reasons games were lost without recognizing they were also reasons games were won.
When you are 14-3 its kind of hard to say scrap what caused the losses, because what you put in its place or what you subtract next to it, may create losses out of some of those wins.
This mad scientist approach of trying to find a single reason that would win a SB is nuts. We need to build the best team we can, and they need to play a good game when its on the line.
Since winning the SB the last time, we have had a team fully capable of winning another in 2006, 2007, 2008(if Brady wasnt injured) 2010.
We didn't not win because of some inherent flaw in the team, we didn't win because we did not play well and the opponent did in 3 critical games (and Bradys injury was the 4th case).
That is why teams win SBs, not talent collections.
Are we really going to say the team that beat the Jets 45-3 a few weeks earlier, was unequiped to beat them in the playoffs? If they played well, they win. You can't rip up the blueprint because you lost when you didn't execute and the other team did.
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