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tedylb · 01-18-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RIVA Pats Fan

Living in Northern Virginia, I went to a local bar to watch the game. There were about 200 people there, 20 Pats fans and no Jaguars fans.

Everytime the Jags did something "positive" the place went crazy like we were in the middle of Jacksonville. Every time the Pats did something, most of the place just remained quiet or somebody would yell obscentities out about Brady.

Absolutely terrible. I even commented to a guy if he was from Jacksonville - and his reply was no, he admitted he just hated the Pats because they were so good.

That's right. Being hated so much is the ultimate compliment. What fan wouldn't want their team hated with our record? Hatred is their only consolation.

PatriotsReign · 01-18-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wistahpatsfan

I love it when I bring up their team (insert losers here) and fake interest in their team like, "Jeez, what are the Jets going to do for quarterback this week?" or "Wow, Joe...the Eagles came real close to beating the Pats, huh? Got a hell of a running back in Westbrook..."
They just look at me and my sh-t eatin grin and turn away. Been doin it for years now.

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Originally Posted by RIVA Pats Fan

Living in Northern Virginia, I went to a local bar to watch the game. There were about 200 people there, 20 Pats fans and no Jaguars fans.

Everytime the Jags did something "positive" the place went crazy like we were in the middle of Jacksonville. Every time the Pats did something, most of the place just remained quiet or somebody would yell obscentities out about Brady.

Absolutely terrible. I even commented to a guy if he was from Jacksonville - and his reply was no, he admitted he just hated the Pats because they were so good.

wistpatsfan & Riva, I think you both describe the perverse joy Patriots fans have experienced this year. I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. I can't tell you all how many people have said to me, "what are you all proud of, it's not like you PLAY for the Patriots!" They just don't get it. These same people will scream "Effn' YAH!!!" when an opposing team scores on the Pats just as if it were they who were scoring on us.

Only a Patriots fan can identify with this wierd & strange joy that has only increased with the hatred that is directed toward us.

Airkuhl · 01-18-2008, 10:57 AM

It's called overexposure.

No one has been able to watch a football game since week 1 without half the commentary being about the Pats. Camera-gate, running up scores, Tom Terrific, records, Moss, unbeaten, etc. I watched a MNF game earlier this year and they talked about the Pats more than either team actually playing the game.

If I wasn't a lifelong Pats fan I'd hate them too. Remember all the Manning ballwashing in 2005?

***TruthSeeker*** · 01-18-2008, 11:21 AM

I take little satisfaction in other people rooting against the Patriots and going away disappointed.

I take great satisfaction in the Patriots playing at a high level and continuing to redefine NFL greatness.

PatsSox363804 · 01-18-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RIVA Pats Fan

Living in Northern Virginia, I went to a local bar to watch the game. There were about 200 people there, 20 Pats fans and no Jaguars fans.

Everytime the Jags did something "positive" the place went crazy like we were in the middle of Jacksonville. Every time the Pats did something, most of the place just remained quiet or somebody would yell obscentities out about Brady.

Absolutely terrible. I even commented to a guy if he was from Jacksonville - and his reply was no, he admitted he just hated the Pats because they were so good.

I was at Harrahs down here in New Orleans watching the Pats Colts game and it was after a Saints game so there was a good 300-400 people in the main bar there and every time the Colts did somethign positive the place ERUPTED. Man did it feel good walking around in my Pats jersey after that game.

PatriotsReign · 01-18-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsSox363804

I was at Harrahs down here in New Orleans watching the Pats Colts game and it was after a Saints game so there was a good 300-400 people in the main bar there and every time the Colts did somethign positive the place ERUPTED. Man did it feel good walking around in my Pats jersey after that game.

Man, I love stories like that!

***patchick*** · 01-18-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RIVA Pats Fan

I even commented to a guy if he was from Jacksonville - and his reply was no, he admitted he just hated the Pats because they were so good.

I have absolutely no problem with this. It's only natural to root for the underdog, and if the Patriots weren't the team I know and love I'd doubtless root against them myself.

But they are my team. And ahhhhh, it feels good.

PatriotsReign · 01-18-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TruthSeeker

I take little satisfaction in other people rooting against the Patriots and going away disappointed.

I take great satisfaction in the Patriots playing at a high level and continuing to redefine NFL greatness.

I don't understand why you don't enjoy the fact that those screaming for the Pats to lose and spouting off about spygate are constantly frustrated. I'd love to hear why you don't enjoy that whild most of us find great joy in it. I've always felt that's a big part of rivalry between fan bases.

***patchick*** · 01-18-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotsReign

I don't understand why you don't enjoy the fact that those screaming for the Pats to lose and spouting off about spygate are constantly frustrated. I'd love to hear why you don't enjoy that whild most of us find great joy in it. I've always felt that's a big part of rivalry between fan bases.

You're confused by the notion of enjoying your own happiness more than another's pain?

aluminum seats · 01-18-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ootball

Well, not that anyone here cares for it, but here's my 2 cents. I don't hate the Pats players; if given a choice, I would want just about every one of them on my team. Harrison is the only one who is easily unlikable.

I don't even hate BB; I read that ESPN article "under the hoodie", or whatever it was, & it really shed some light on who he is. He hates the media, which is why he generally comes across poorly in the public eye, but I have huge respect for him.

The fans -well, they've become somewhat intolerable. It used to be easy to root for Boston sports, because many fans of both the Sox & Patriots were as long-suffering as anyone. Now, there is a sense of entitlement among the younger fans in particular that is reminiscent of Yankee fans & Cowboy fans, and it's a challenge for opposing fans to want to see that continue.

In general, I want the Pats to lose because - when my team isn't in it - I root for the underdog (just as I was happy when the Pats beat the Rams all those years ago). Plus, the whole Pats/Colts reign over the AFC is just getting boring, and it would be nice to see a more competitive league emerge over the next few years.

This is probably where most Pats fans would be if another team was doing what the Patriots (and the rest of Boston sports) is doing, so I think that's reasonable.

For my part, there is a certain satisfaction in winning when everyone hates you. I have to say, though, there was also satisfaction in winning back in 2001, when I'm guessing the public largely loved us. In some ways that was better, in some ways this is. (How's that for a definitive answer.)