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Old 03-22-2011, 05:13 PM   #1
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Default The San Diego Union-Tribune REPORTS the Pats are shopping pick #28.

Chargers could take advantage of Patriots' desire for draft move - SignOnSanDiego.com

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According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, "word is" the Patriots are already shopping the No. 28 overall pick in the draft.
The Pats have two first-round picks and two second-rounders, and a long history of moving all over the draft board in an effort to acquire even more. The Union-Trib notes Chargers GM A.J. Smith's "history of partnering with Belichick" in draft-weekend trades, and reports that "the idea (of moving to No. 28) is intriguing" to Smith. New England's pick at No. 33 overall is also likely in play, but may not officially be until the first round is over on the night of April 28 and morning of April 29.

The Chargers have the 18th, 50th, 61st, 82nd and 89th picks this year. That, along with next year’s picks (which Belichick always seems to like to stockpile) gives the Chargers the ability to target a player at No. 28 and go for it. Smith also has a history of doing that.

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Duh? Why wouldn't they be doing that...
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Damn, pats should just go for it this year. Get Pouncey + pass rusher. Unless they are getting at least like a 2nd back. Players traders probably won't be able to be done by then I assume?
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A shame those aren't the Raiders picks, then Belichik could trade the #28 to Oakland for the #18 and #50.
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A San Diego newspaper is reporting this, so my guess is that the information probably came from somebody within the Chargers organization.

Speculation #1: The Pats have indeed been talking to the Chargers - and other teams - as preliminary due diligence in order to get an idea of who might be interested in trading on draft day, and what they are looking for in exchange.

Speculation #2: The Pats have indeed been talking to the Chargers, with the intent of trading the pick.

Speculation #3: The Pats have indeed been talking to the Chargers, with the intent of creating a diversion so they could figure out if they may want to trade up from their #18 spot.

Speculation #4: The Pats planted the rumors in order to see how other teams would react and to figure out who is interested in trading up, and who is interested in trading down.

It should also be noted that the Chargers are a contending conference rival whose three biggest needs are (a) a pass rushing outside linebacker, (b) a defensive end, and (c) an offensive lineman (right tackle in their case); does that sound familiar at all?
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Another BS rumor that happens every year. No way do the Pats even consider trading the 28th pick until they are on the clock. Why would the Pats trade it before then? It makes no sense and rarely happens with any team.

What this report is getting is the typical chatter between organizations where they send out feelers to see who might be interested in the pick and what they might give up so on draft day the negotiations can happen quickly. That doesn't mean the Pats will trade the pick, but they have a good idea who to call if they decide that there is no one worth taking with that pick. I wouldn't bet against them talking with other teams to trade up.

The Pats have no idea who will be available at 28. So they won't trade until they are on the clock if they trade at all. For all we know, the #2 guy on their draft board could still be available with that pick (you would assume either they drafted their #1 guy on their draft board already or he was selected by someone else). Why would they trade it away. Or you could have a case like last year where the Broncos really wanted to trade up to get Tebow and the Cowboys wanted to trade up to get Dez Bryant. The Pats got more in those two trades than they would have gotten trading the pick before the draft.
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Another BS rumor that happens every year. No way do the Pats even consider trading the 28th pick until they are on the clock. Why would the Pats trade it before then? It makes no sense and rarely happens with any team.
Didn't BB actually say, though, that he's OK with the idea if he feels the circumstances warrant?

As a case in point: the Pats had agreed, in principle, to the trade with NO in 2008 the night before the draft.
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Didn't BB actually say, though, that he's OK with the idea if he feels the circumstances warrant?

As a case in point: the Pats had agreed, in principle, to the trade with NO in 2008 the night before the draft.
If I recall, the Saints had that lined up with the Patriots because the Saints were looking to take Sedrick Ellis if was still available at #7. Although the trade may have been agreed to in principle, the Saints probably wouldn't have made the deal if Ellis was gone.
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