ClevTrev

More anguish is due to befall Mr. Mangini than what can be caused by a snowball. Evidently, you don't read the posts. Because if you did, you would have read comments about Mangini's "brief career as HC."

Right . . . . "boos." Not "snowballs." Is it that hard to understand? Glad you're not listening to radio broadcasts of Osama.

Hah! Not sure where you got that idea. No such comment was made by me. But it's interesting that when I object to the potential danger of snowballs and fans who are vulnerable to that stuff, security guards trying to put in a workday, and others, you make it out to be a "Mangini thing." You missed the whole point.

I say go for it if you're consenting adults!!!! Not sure how the Krafts might react!

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OhExaulted1

Depends on who was offering me the boob.

pats1

Not the point...again. What you said is true, but how far beyond that do your feelings towards Mangini go?

You continue to miss the point. The mere fact that James said to save up all your energy for when Mangini comes out points to the fact that they want fans to "hate on" Mangini. He wouldn't have mentioned Mangini by name if everything was all well and good between him and the Pats.

And I'm not sure where you got the idea that I thought hurling snowballs at other fans, security guards, refs, players, the field (not sure why you'd want to do that) was alright. I just said that Mangini is the one guy I wouldn't mind seeing get hit, provided he wasn't injured.

And yes, you clearly stated that Mangini shouldn't be harshly treated because Spygate was the Pats' fault.

I kind of addressed this point in my last post. To some, a football game is a family, baseball style, buy a foam finger and 2 hot dogs atmosphere where 70 degrees and sunny is perfect weather. To others, it's a game where the colder the better, the snowier the better, where you stand all game, buy no concessions, and scream your lungs out when the opposing offense is on the field. You start off kids with training camp and preseason games until they're ready, willing, and downright enthusiastic about standing for 7 hours in the snow and cold.

pats1

And with that, we have 10,001 Pats1 posts!

ClevTrev

They don't. He's nothing to me.

Beg to differ, you appear to be the one missing the point. "Hate on Mangini" are your words, not Stacey's. You really don't understand that arch rivals want nothing more than to win, nothing wrong with James' request for noise and vitriol. You see, words don't hurt, but loud words can disrupt the opponents offense. Wow, am I really having to explain this?

Yep, that's what I said. Belichick has taken responsibility, paid his fine, and moved on. You going to change that? If you do, I'll be very impressed. So in essence, you spend all this time venting about Mangini because the Pats got caught breaking a rule. It's over for me.

There's only one way I can explain this. Maybe if you become a parent (I'm obviously assuming you are not currently) and have someone in your life who you care about more than you care about yourself, then you'll understand what it's like to value others' safety and become aware of the delight people of all ages get from following a great sport. Remembering what it was like as a kid when my father brought me to Pats & Sox games and being able to do the same with my kids when they were younger makes me realize that there's much more to the whole experience than directing hatred at some insignificant guy who is probably not going to last beyond next year in his position as HC NYJs. Now, maybe you'll never get to that point. But I see others at games having the same experience with their family members that I've had with mine, young and old, and you understand that it's much more than numbers on a scoreboard at the end of the game.

Coupled with the season we are witnessing, it's something you want to put in your memory to have stories for a long time. Someday, you'll wonder . . . "What the hell ever happened to that arsehole Mangini?" Because all of a sudden you'll realize that he was a shooting star in a sport with a lifetime of memories.

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ClevTrev

Congrats, glad to help out!!!

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pats1

Now we're getting somewhere.

Exactly! The Pats and Jets are arch rivals. Stacey including Mangini in that also means the Pats (or Belichick) and Mangini are arch rivals. I'm not sure that same sentiment exists with, say, Tony Dungy.

I'm talking more about last season.

I think that's accurate. Good points.

PatsWickedPissah

That is a vicious un-called for jab at guys with prostrate issues.

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pats1

I think the greater issue is whether they can actually get to them behind a mountain of bottles!

Joker

pquote]That is a vicious un-called for jab at guys with prostrate issues.[/quote]
yeah, I prostrate myself every Friday night at my wife's feet, begging for a few hours out with the boys.Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...I think she HAS ISSUES!