Brady=Joey Harrington - New England Patriots Forums

SVN · 11-21-2007, 08:10 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...0&sportCat=nfl

this is quite funny

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The Flying Elvii are doing everything to near-perfection, but TMQ continues to think too much credit is going to Brady and his flashy receivers, not enough to the offensive line and defensive front seven. On the night, Brady was never sacked, was hit only once and hurried only once; otherwise, he stood in the pocket as though he was posing for a magazine cover, no rusher even near him. Put Joey Harrington behind New England's great offensive line, and he'd be a star.

***Aqua4Ever04*** · 11-21-2007, 08:12 PM

Joey Harrington has never got good protection. It's a stretch saying he'd be Tom Brady but he could be a very good QB in such circumstances.

SVN · 11-21-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aqua4Ever04

Joey Harrington has never got good protection. It's a stretch saying he'd be Tom Brady but he could be a very good QB in such circumstances.

a lot of it is the QB himself. if the QB makes quick decisions and gets rid of the ball then he doesnt get sacked or hurried. Brady does have a lot time but even in the past our oline has played quite well. its now that we are averaging 41pts per game people are realizing NE has an oline.

***Aqua4Ever04*** · 11-21-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SVN

a lot of it is the QB himself. if the QB makes quick decisions and gets rid of the ball then he doesnt get sacked or hurried. Brady does have a lot time but even in the past our oline has played quite well. its now that we are averaging 41pts per game people are realizing NE has an oline.

When Harrington played in Miami he got rid of the ball very quickly which resulted in a lot of poor decisions. Not necessarily disagreeing with you, just saying Harrington has never had a fair shake.

***mgcolby*** · 11-21-2007, 08:19 PM

Houston with David Carr = worst O-line in football!

Houston with Matt Schaub = we don't hear about them!

FrontSeven · 11-21-2007, 08:20 PM

Tom uses the pocket like nobody I've ever seen since Marino. I doubt that Harrington could do that.

I know Jon Kitna can't. I watched the guy abuse the pocket the other day and just shook my head, "Tom would have stepped up one or two steps and had plenty of time." Instead Kitna sort of waltzed right into the rush. Dumb.

Most plays behind this line may not require such footwork but when it's required, I doubt that Joey Harrington would feel his way around that pocket like Tom or Marino. And there is the sack, or the hurry and the pick, and there goes the drive, the momentum, and the other guys get their offense on the field again.

drew4008 · 11-21-2007, 08:25 PM

I agree, I like Harrington and hope he gets another shot in a good system. Did you see Miami's OL last year? (even you have to agree with that fact Aqua...)

***mcbee*** · 11-21-2007, 08:31 PM

He didn't say they were the same.

He's making a point. Kind of dumb because although Brady gets time, if he didn't he still wouldn't be sacked, as he'd get rid of the ball to a receiver on a short route.

Plus they don't blitz him as much because they know that he can dodge one or two and then hit someone deep.

So he kind of makes his own time. He misses that.

TomBrady'sGoat · 11-21-2007, 08:35 PM

Yes, many QBs would be good behind Brady's line this year. Another relevant fact is that Brady has been good his entire career, even when his offensive line wasn't very good.

Hollywood_Brady · 11-21-2007, 08:42 PM

harrington behind pats oline = decent
brady behind pats oline = out of this world

what separates brady from harrington more than anything else... 2 things:
1. pocket presence
2. football IQ