PatsWickedPissah

Why let facts get in the way of a beloved wacko theory? First, Goodell is not and was not Kraft's guy. Kraft's guy was somebody from Concord MA near where I lived. The rest of the owners did NOT want a Kraft guy as commish.

BB is a football historian. In no way would he risk his reputation or his SB legacy were he to be prescient and realize the ****storm that hit as a result of cameragate. Read Halberstram's book for further insight here.

BB got punished severely because he incorrectly misjudged how a rookie commish in love with his emergent 'tough guy' image would over react. Goodell panicked and let the NY focused media push him to over react.

BB's hubris also hurt him. He was not worried about geting caught; he figured he had his own explanation of why he wasn't violating the rule. But Goodell would have none of it and over reacted. See previous paragraph.

In no way would the Pats blow away a #1 pick for some nebulous reform of video or other signal snarfing rules. Or to get back at the inconsequential, soon to be irrelevant Mangini. Way too high a price. Top draft picks are gold. They come at a much smaller cap hit and breath new blood into a Dynasty and a Dynasty is what Kraft wants.

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wizwor

Good stuff. Assumption is that the taping was interns with cameras filming coaches sending in plays. The rule applies to all taping. One of the things I have done as part of my day job is provide 'real time' video to attorneys during a strike. The attorneys used this information to anticipate and preempt undesired behavior.

Now, we had 'interns' running around with cameras, but we also had cameras integrated into the infrastructure. We weren't looking for coaches sending in signals, we were watching the action.

If you can believe that Miami used audio tapes to anticipate Pat's plays and went on to shut out a better team, why can't you believe the Colts could capture and use first half data -- collected in a manner ambiguously prohibited by the league -- to improve second half performance?

You don't have to agree with the theory, but you don't need to threadcrap either. When I stumble across a thread that I'm not interested in, I simply move on to the next.

mcbee

I just don't think it's makes sense. He wants Indy to stop so he does it to get caught and so everyone will be told to stop. But supposedly he's done this for a long time. And now he looks like the bad guy.

I don't think it's that easy to decode signals. THey are changed constantly. sometimes they have more than one coach putting them in, a dummy and a real one.

If he really wanted to get them, he'd keep the status quo and then invent a really complicated signal system that couldn't easily be deciphered, especially in a quarter or two. And then change it the next quarter and so on. Then Indy would have a false sense of confidence.

wizwor

That's fine. This is a conspiracy theory. Like I said, I don't think the Colts were capturing signals. I think they were recording the game and preparing adjustments for halftime -- a better version of the pictures they send to the sidelines during the game. If you have a lot of cameras and a lot of *good* analysts, you can pull out the significant few weaknesses to exploit. That's what I think happened. I think BB wanted to make sure that does not happen Sunday.

If the Colts romp all over the Pats Sunday, maybe this theory is just a little mental masturbation. If the Colts do not make amazing halftime adjustments, then maybe...

bclaff

That used to be a lot easier. Are you married with two young kids?

PatsFan-NH

But that was part of BBs defense that he was not doing anything nefarious. Everyone just jumps at the obvious: stupidity, or blind arrogance. But it wasn't stupidity, or blind arrogance, it was planned. If they got caught BB could say, see it is a legitimate rule interpretation, because we weren't sneaking around, or trying to hide anything. We thought it was legal, and to prove that, we did it out in the open.

While I think the manner was planned, no way does he tarnish his reputation, the NE Pat's, Bob Kraft's and lose all that money, the draft pick, and possibly risk being suspended, banned, or fired. BB has to know the knives are out for him and the Pats, there is no way for him to predict what the punishment would be. Doing it and keeping quiet seemed to him to be an acceptable risk, getting himself nailed does not.

BoTown

Too far-fetched, IMO. I just think the Patriots made it a point to make the most out of a bad situation: in this case, motivation with a backs-against-the-wall approach.

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emoney_33

Enough with the craziness. It's quite simple, as all answers usually are.


BB thought the rule applied only if you were using the tape during games. BB never used tapes of defensive coaches during game, it's not feasible and he knows everyone in the game knows that. He used it to compile a database of coaches' mannerisms and tendencies. Blah blah blah, it's over.


It's either that or he was upset over the miami fiasco last year and decided he wanted to "stick it to the league", with the rule misinterpretation as his backup.


Nothing more nothing less.

RayClay

Patsox23, I know you are a veteran poster, but every time you use that word I

picture you with a band-aid holding your glasses together, a pocket

protector and some high tide Walmart polyester pants.

Just thought you should know.

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Patriotic Fervor

Well, whatever the merits of the original poster's conspiracy theory, I do agree that Belichick was closer to getting canned than any of us know or imagine. He was so close that Kraft signed him to a 5-year extension 2 days later, undoubtedly along with more than enough money to make up for the $500K that Highwayman Goodell took from him.

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