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Old 10-31-2007, 01:40 PM   #1
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I haven't watched a Pats game yet and wanted some info on your team.

I'm assuming you go with a slot the majority of the time.

As such, do most teams play nickel against you?

Do they blitz or play primarily back, hoping to contain the big play?

Have you played any cover-2 defenses this season?

Defensively, do you still lineup up 6-7 at the line, many standing up and rush from different positions?

Primarily, do you try and take what the D give you, or do you try to run your plays regardless of what the D is doing.

Are most of your passing yards going deep, or getting YAC.

I know, a lot of questions. But I'm very interested in the makeup and tendencies of teams we play.

Thanks.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:48 PM   #2
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Are most of your passing yards going deep, or getting YAC.

I know, a lot of questions. But I'm very interested in the makeup and tendencies of teams we play.
Alas, I have neither the time nor the knowledge to answer all of them, but for this one at least I think I've seen enough to speak about.

The simple answer is "it depends on who the receiver is." The vast majority of Randy Moss' yards are made on the initial catch, although he does pick up some YAC here and there. I'd say the same is more or less true of the TEs.

Stallworth and Welker, though, are the players who really excel at getting YAC; for each, half or more of their yards come that way; IIRC, Stallworth leads the league in YAC per reception, while Welker leads in total YAC. (And, for that matter, they get most of their TDs on YAC--Welker has 6 TDs, but none were end-zone catches.)
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I haven't watched a Pats game yet and wanted some info on your team.

I'm assuming you go with a slot the majority of the time.

As such, do most teams play nickel against you?

Do they blitz or play primarily back, hoping to contain the big play?

Have you played any cover-2 defenses this season?

Defensively, do you still lineup up 6-7 at the line, many standing up and rush from different positions?

Primarily, do you try and take what the D give you, or do you try to run your plays regardless of what the D is doing.

Are most of your passing yards going deep, or getting YAC.

I know, a lot of questions. But I'm very interested in the makeup and tendencies of teams we play.

Thanks.

Here the short on 2007 Pats O and D tendencies this year

O => Score at will with Moss, Welker, Stallworth, Watson, Maroney, Faulk
D => Strip, sack, intercept, stop you often

There. rest is just details.

Seriously. I cannot see how Colts D can stop Welker, Watson, Moss, Stallworth when there is 1 Bob Sanders. Bring him in the box, Moss goes deep. Play him deep and Welker, Watson, Maroney eat you alive.

Conversely, Pats D will be lot fresh for this game vs AFCCG. Despite all the flu bug and second half meltdown, the pats were 1 Watson complete pass away from running the clock out and winning that game.

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I haven't watched a Pats game yet and wanted some info on your team.

I'm assuming you go with a slot the majority of the time.

As such, do most teams play nickel against you?

Do they blitz or play primarily back, hoping to contain the big play?

Have you played any cover-2 defenses this season?

Defensively, do you still lineup up 6-7 at the line, many standing up and rush from different positions?

Primarily, do you try and take what the D give you, or do you try to run your plays regardless of what the D is doing.

Are most of your passing yards going deep, or getting YAC.

I know, a lot of questions. But I'm very interested in the makeup and tendencies of teams we play.

Thanks.
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Primarily, do you try and take what the D give you, or do you try to run your plays regardless of what the D is doing.
Contrary to what the Colts do, which is run their plays over and over to perfection based on lots of repititions, the Pats are like a Swiss Army Knife, we adapt on defense and offense to our opponent.
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I'll tell you a bit about what I know. And hopefully any inaccuracies will get corrected by a later poster.

First, the above comments about YAC are correct. It's a VERY mixed bag. Moss and the TEs typically take chunks of yards with limited YAC. (Sometimes the limitation of the YAC is the end-zone however.) Then Stallworth, Welker, AND THE RBs typically get some YAC. I mention the RBs as well, because especially with Faulk last week-- we've seen that YAC have an effect on "moving the chains."

We have played Cover 2 defenses. (Or Tampa-type 2s if you prefer.) We actually just played the Redskins. Now, their defensive coordinator (Greg Williams) has been distancing himself from a true cover-2. He actually said in an interview he believes it's been outed and isn't viable. However, I think the way the Redskins defense tries to behave and the way the colts behave is similar with regard to the corners and defensive backs. Colts, I think, are better at corner and DB. So the results there could be different. The BIG difference, though, is the Defensive Line. The Colts, I think, will be able to get some kind of pass rush only bringing 4 (which is what you have to do.) Know this-- bringing an extra guy to blitz Brady will yield very bad results. So in many ways, if you see you're not able to get a solid pass rush with 4 linemen, then you can assume you'll be losing the game. At least that's my take.

I'll leave more detailed observations for others. I'm not as technically knowledgeable a fan as many people.
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Go here and check the archives.
http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal.../reiss_pieces/

He charts offensive tendencies like formations by snap.

Also go here, there was something on Brady vs. the Blitz:

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...pping-brady-2/

You can then use search to find specifics.
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I haven't watched a Pats game yet and wanted some info on your team.

I'm assuming you go with a slot the majority of the time.

As such, do most teams play nickel against you? Sometimes.

Do they blitz or play primarily back, hoping to contain the big play? Playing back, with an occasional blitz for the most part. Dallas tried blitzing and were burned badly.

Have you played any cover-2 defenses this season? Just this past week.

Defensively, do you still lineup up 6-7 at the line, many standing up and rush from different positions? It depends. I would expect to see plenty of fake blitzing if that is what you are asking.

Primarily, do you try and take what the D give you, or do you try to run your plays regardless of what the D is doing. Brady will force a ball into Moss on occassion just to keep the defense honest, but he is more than happy to dump it off to Faulk if that is the best option.

Are most of your passing yards going deep, or getting YAC. Both. A lot depends on the WR. Moss doesn't have that much yac, but Stallworht has tons. Welker gets a decent amount as well.

I know, a lot of questions. But I'm very interested in the makeup and tendencies of teams we play.

Thanks.
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too many questions

most teams don't blitz us much (less than 20% of passing plays)
our offensive sets include 4wr 1rb, 3wr 1te 1rb, 2wr 2te 1rb....+++++
we take what the defense gives us, unless we take what we want
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