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Guys, that is a fumble. Brady completes the pump fake and even resets his arm to get ready to throw it again.
BTW, there most certainly is a time limit on the tuck. A QB cannot pump fake and then hold the ball out in front of him and run around without concern. If the QB stops his motion, then the pump is over.
Not according to the poorly written rule....
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FWIW, I was screaming "INCOMPLETE PASS" at my poor defenseless tv until I saw the replay, at which point I muttered "oh, er, or maybe lateral, nevermind" and sunk back to my seat.
That play where the Cowboys scored on the fumble should have been reviewed. It was an incomplete pass. Brady pumped and never tucked the ball away. In that situation, when the ball hits the ground its incomplete. No exceptions. We all know this in New England. And the exact same thing was called in Cleveland's favor last week against us. Classic tuck rule. Watch the play, Brady pumps (arm moves forward)....moves a bit in the pocket, ball is knocked out. But he NEVER tucks the ball away....a key to the rule.
Incomplete pass, should have been reviewed. That was a mistake by the Patriots coaches.
J D Sal
I'm just glad they got it right when it really counted.
Guys, that is a fumble. Brady completes the pump fake and even resets his arm to get ready to throw it again.
BTW, there most certainly is a time limit on the tuck. A QB cannot pump fake and then hold the ball out in front of him and run around without concern. If the QB stops his motion, then the pump is over.
Can't wait for JD to see this. You are toast Oswelek, and you a re a Pats fan. Somebody go get JD!
That play where the Cowboys scored on the fumble should have been reviewed. It was an incomplete pass. Brady pumped and never tucked the ball away. In that situation, when the ball hits the ground its incomplete. No exceptions. We all know this in New England. And the exact same thing was called in Cleveland's favor last week against us. Classic tuck rule. Watch the play, Brady pumps (arm moves forward)....moves a bit in the pocket, ball is knocked out. But he NEVER tucks the ball away....a key to the rule.
Incomplete pass, should have been reviewed. That was a mistake by the Patriots coaches.
J D Sal
No, watch the clip again. After lowering it (preparing to tuck), Brady brings the ball back UP. He is now no longer tucking, but preparing to throw again.
The refs got this one right.
Edit: Just read the rest of the thread and I see I am saying the same thing as He Spank Me Bum, which is disconcerting to say the least. But fumble was the correct call.
Last edited by spacecrime; 10-15-2007 at 12:18 PM..
No, watch the clip again. After lowering it (preparing to tuck), Brady brings the ball back UP. He is now no longer tucking, but preparing to throw again.
The refs got this one right.
Edit: Just read the rest of the thread and I see I am saying the same thing as He Spank Me Bum, which is disconcerting to say the least. But fumble was the correct call.
Space!! It's okay, I'm really not a bad guy.
CERTAINLY, an apology from all those who jumped my case yesterday would be nice
Last edited by He Ban Me; 10-15-2007 at 12:58 PM..
step in front of a speeding train...gaurantee we'll love you
Speaking of speeding trains, what happens to the guy who runs in front of the trolly, and drops down flat on the street, just as the trolly approaches? Does he get all mangled up, or is there enough clearance? Finally, was that YOU who did that?