Krugman

If the Cowboys dont want them to score,stop 'em.Simple enough.

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Two Eight

I think it's the ONLY sportsmanlike playcall in that situation. The point is to call the play that has the best opportunity to run time off the clock and end the game, whether or not they score or turn the ball over on downs is immaterial to the play calling, naturally the players on the field will try to score everytime they touch the ball and you wouldn't want it, or coach it, any other way.

PatsWickedPissah

Eckel is a Navy kid and reportedly has been working his butt off in practise. Those who know BB know the Navy connection. He rewarded the kid at the same time using the correct end game strategy. It's up to the Cows girly mon on D to stop the run.

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questionman

I don't know the exact games, I don't keep a log. But I have seen it a couple times when the game was well in hand.

SoCalPatsfan90

If anyone still has access on the dallas forum.. I'd like someone to post this. Everyone keeps saying that NE ran the score up because NE took a timeout after the 2min warning. here is the play by play from fox sports..

Patriots ball, 03:45
1st-10-Dal20 Rush Kevin Faulk Off Right Tackle to Dal18 for 2 yards
2nd-8-Dal18 Pass Tom Brady Pass to Wes Welker to Dal20 for -2 yards
3rd-10-Dal20 Time Out New England Patriots timeout.
3rd-10-Dal20 Pass Tom Brady Pass to Wes Welker to Dal9 for 11 yards
1st-9-Dal9 Two Minute Warning Two-Minute Warning
1st-9-Dal9 Rush Kevin Faulk Off Right Tackle to Dal6 for 3 yards
2nd-6-Dal6 Time Out Dallas Cowboys timeout.
2nd-6-Dal6 Rush Kyle Eckel up the Middle to Dal5 for 1 yard
3rd-5-Dal5 Rush Kyle Eckel Off Left Tackle to Dal1 for 4 yards
4th-1-Dal1 Rush Kyle Eckel Off Right Tackle for 1 yard for a TOUCHDOWN
Made Extra Point Stephen Gostkowski extra point is GOOD. Holder-Chris Hanson
NE 48 Dal 27, Plays: 7 Yards: 20 Possession: 3:26

SoCalPatsfan90

This is dallas' fault that we couldn't kneel it out like we normally do. NE didn't take a single time out and were clearly trying to run the clock out and would have successfully had WP not taken their 3rd timeout after the 2min warning.

PatsFanDan

Teams have done it.

In fact I am almost certain the Pats have done it under BB. But I don't have time to go thru every box score so here is the play by play from the end of the Saints/Cowboys game from last year....

Granted it was a 25 point lead when Brees started taking a knee with 3 minutes left but don't say it doesn't happen. It does happen.

New Orleans - 11:11
1st-10, NO16 11:11 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, NO19 10:26 D. McAllister rushed to the left for 2 yard gain
3rd-5, NO21 9:41 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 6 yard gain
1st-10, NO27 8:55 NO committed 5 yard penalty
1st-15, NO22 8:31 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
2nd-12, NO25 7:44 D. McAllister rushed up the middle for 5 yard gain
3rd-7, NO30 6:59 D. McAllister rushed up the middle for 35 yard gain
1st-10, DAL35 6:07 R. Bush rushed to the right for 5 yard gain
2nd-5, DAL30 5:22 R. Bush rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
3rd-1, DAL26 4:36 D. McAllister rushed to the left for 2 yard gain
1st-10, DAL24 3:54 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 4 yard gain
2nd-6, DAL20 3:07 R. Bush rushed to the left for 16 yard gain
1st-4, DAL4 3:00 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 2 yard loss
2nd-6, DAL6 3:00 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
3rd-7, DAL7 2:00 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
4th-8, DAL8 1:13 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss

Dallas - 1:13
1st-10, DAL9 1:13 T. Romo rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
2nd-11, DAL8 0:33 T. Romo rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss

emoney_33

Thank you. I apologize for insisting it never happened. I guess there can be somewhat of an argument for turning the ball over to go out of your way and show respect. I don't agree with it though, I think the best thing to do is what we do, run the last string RB up the middle 4 plays in a row. I think it's more of a slap in the face to kneel-turnover the ball, basically saying "we feel so bad for you, here's the ball". Let them keep some pride and do what they are paid to do and stop you. I do back off my original impressions of turning it over on a kneel never happened etc... But I still don't think running it is "running up the score", and turning it over is a must to avoid "running up the score".

Again, thanks for the proof, I shouldn't sound so sure of myself when I don't know something for a fact.

questionman

The one question that needs to be asked is how would the board react if the situation was reversed and the Cowboys scored a TD in the same situation?

Joker

what is this? Little Sallys Broken Hearts Club?

I sat through years and years of Shula and others RUNNING UP THE SCORE on Patriots squads. It's FOOTBALL...if you can't stop 'em, then get some players who can...and (Please be quiet - edited)