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Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
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Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
I watched Maroney on play action fakes a few times on Sunday and he blew up the Bills blitzers which is a really encouraging sign that he will be involved in the pass game in weeks to come because if the defense rushes a base 4 he'll slide out into the pattern.
I didn't feel he read the blitz pickups well last year so I think this is a big step.
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Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
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Like most young RBs pass protection and pass receiving are new to him. With one of the top receiving RBs in the league (Faulk) and a better than average receiving backup (Morris) it doesn't leave a lot of situations for him to receive passes.
I don't think he creates mismatches in the slot so I doubt they will split him out wide. Also until he improves his pass blocking he won't get much 3rd down action which is where most RBs catch their passes.
Right now is a one dimensional runner, albeit an improving one.
Pass receiving may be "new" to LoMar but the guy showed a surprising talent for it FROM THE BEGINNING last year and did a great job catching the ball last season - he was a real weapon in that role. I don't think he's a one-dimensional runner at all - he catches well, has high-end speed, can run up the gut and take punishment, gets yards after breaking tackles, and his pass-protect isn't nearly as deficient as some here would have it.
I'd say, in fact, that he is as well-rounded a RB we've had since Curtis Martin was here.
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True but few rookies do well at blitz pickups initially......most not having had to do it in college, or at least not as often...
I agree. I wasn't being critical of him not being able to do it last year, it was praise for picking it up this year. Some backs never get it, Cobbs comes to mind, and some take longer than 2 years.
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Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
When you win games as handily as NE has, you have the ability to leave a few bullets in the revolver.
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Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
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Pass receiving may be "new" to LoMar but the guy showed a surprising talent for it FROM THE BEGINNING last year and did a great job catching the ball last season - he was a real weapon in that role. I don't think he's a one-dimensional runner at all - he catches well, has high-end speed, can run up the gut and take punishment, gets yards after breaking tackles, and his pass-protect isn't nearly as deficient as some here would have it.
I'd say, in fact, that he is as well-rounded a RB we've had since Curtis Martin was here.
He could be the most rounded since Curtis Martin, Edwards was looking pretty good until that damn beach volleyball game. I like Maroney and hope he does well, coming of his injury the Pats are doing a nice job working him in. I was encouraged to see a couple blocks in the Bills game because against SD he looked lost.
But pass receiving is new to him... I can't call him great when he only caught 22 passes last year and 21 in three years of college. 43 catches in 4 years, about 10 per year is not a lot.
I think he will show steady progress and end up with about 25-30 catches this year, next year the number will increase as he plays more on 3rd downs.
Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
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But pass receiving is new to him... I can't call him great when he only caught 22 passes last year and 21 in three years of college. 43 catches in 4 years, about 10 per year is not a lot.
I think he will show steady progress and end up with about 25-30 catches this year, next year the number will increase as he plays more on 3rd downs.
It's disingenuous to use his college stats against him - that offense didn't throw the ball to its backs much (or much at all, IIRC). Also, by all accounts LoMar surprised the staff with his receiving skills from Day One, like a duck to water. Finally, considering he split time (and, frankly, even if he hadn't), 22 catches for a potential-stud RB is really solid.
Also, if you have KEVIN FAULK on your team, why would you not take advantage? And why wouldn't you understand that, as a result of having an elite pass-catching RB as your 3rd down back, Maroney's receiving #s would be less, through no fault or limitation of his own?
Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
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Originally Posted by patsox23
It's disingenuous to use his college stats against him - that offense didn't throw the ball to its backs much (or much at all, IIRC). Also, by all accounts LoMar surprised the staff with his receiving skills from Day One, like a duck to water. Finally, considering he split time (and, frankly, even if he hadn't), 22 catches for a potential-stud RB is really solid.
Also, if you have KEVIN FAULK on your team, why would you not take advantage? And why wouldn't you understand that, as a result of having an elite pass-catching RB as your 3rd down back, Maroney's receiving #s would be less, through no fault or limitation of his own?
Excellent point.
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Re: So is Maroney capable of catching passes or what?
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Originally Posted by patsox23
It's disingenuous to use his college stats against him - that offense didn't throw the ball to its backs much (or much at all, IIRC). Also, by all accounts LoMar surprised the staff with his receiving skills from Day One, like a duck to water. Finally, considering he split time (and, frankly, even if he hadn't), 22 catches for a potential-stud RB is really solid.
Also, if you have KEVIN FAULK on your team, why would you not take advantage? And why wouldn't you understand that, as a result of having an elite pass-catching RB as your 3rd down back, Maroney's receiving #s would be less, through no fault or limitation of his own?
Why is it disingenuous? His stats are his stats aren't they? The run first offense in Minn. has put him behind other RBs. Again (I LIKE THE KID), it sucks that every time someone doesn't ballwash or adore a Pats player they need to put a disclaimer in their post.
Faulk - I think I said the exact same thing at least twice in this thread. Maroney is the 3rd best receiving RB on the team and it is quite a drop-off from Faulk. Until #39 plays more on 3rd downs he won't catch a lot of passes.(which won't happen until he improves pass protection or Faulk is not in the lineup)
IMO he is an average receiver by NFL running back standards, but he is improving and could prove to be solid option in the passing game.