Armen Da Pats Fan

I think the reason Goodell made it a #1 was:

a) for impact when it was reported in the media
b) he knows the Pats have an additional #1 from San Fran, so losing this one, which is, in essence a high 2nd rounder, since we should be picking somewhere between 26 - 32, wouldn't hurt as much as losing the San Fran pick, which is probably going to be bwteen 8 -15.

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mykl

I completely agree that our team will survive. In fact it is going to just keep getting better and better, but the loss of a first rounder is absolutely a big deal. I would much rather have Logan Mankins AND Chad Jackson, than JUST Chad Jackson. If this hit us in a year where we DIDN'T have SF's #1 as well I think many people on this board would be singing a different tune about the severity of the punishment.

Now I still think that the punishment was fair. While it is true that this is the harshest penatly that the league has handed down, you really can't compare the salary cap issue with Denver and this. Not because the offense was different, but because the times are different. It is a different commish (who has clearly decided to cast himself as the law and order type of guy) and almost a decade later. The league itself, and the entire sports world (think about all the sports scandals that have been going on...I'm thinking particularly NBA brawl here) are in a very different place now than they were ten years ago. In the legal world, precedent means a lot, but the law does have to change with the times.

Robdude

I think this is a harsh penalty to pay.

With that said I believe our Pats have been managed so well in the past few years that this is not nearly as devistating as it would be to most other teams. I think I would go as far as saying we are the only team that can absorb the loss of a first round pick and still have the possibilty of still having the excellent draft. No other team can.

After watching the 49ers scrape by the cardinals the other night I agree with other posters here. It was a great trade last draft and it is very possible that we will have a lot of ability for movement. I would not be surprised if we have a 2008 first round pick and 2 picks again in 2009

WhiZa

I totally agree with this. Since we have 2 #1s Goodell can take one of them away and appease both sides of the issue. 1) The harsh critics who wanted day one drafts picks (plus) and 2) the Patriots who won't complain as much because they have another pick.

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mykl

Except that I think Goodell knows that he is setting a precedent for the rest of his tenure as commish for offenses similar or worse than this one. Of course he needed to seem fair in the eyes of both sides, but I don't think he would do this just because we also had SF's #1.

Jacky Roberts

Big deal. Somehow, someway, the Pats will end up with 2 first round picks in 2009 like they always do. With only 2 draft picks in 2007 making the team, I think they will be fine.

I really hope BB has proof of other teams doing it and screws them, if everyone loses their first round picks, its goign to be a fast first round.

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Robdude

I agree that losing a picking does not hurt us nearly as much as others i have complete faith in managment.

But with that said I hope and beleive that BB will not rat out any other teams. He is not a Mangini rat

Jacky Roberts

I think the gloves are off with Mangini. If BB gets a chance to ruin his career, he'll do it. Lets be honest, BB is a pr*ck and he is vindictive.

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DonBlackmon55

All I care is the Raven beat the effin crap out of Jets, and then Dec 16th we run up the score down the RAT's throat (50+). The th NY media can have a field day

Real World

The penatly isn't just excessive, it's stupid. The commissioner is punishing the franchise for the misdeeds of the coach. A 1st is a long term punishment which will be felt for years to come. It's a Logan Mankins, Daniel Graham, Larence Maroney, etc. What happens if BB is gone in a year or two? BB should have been suspended & fined, while the franchise should have lost a less expensive pick. He should have punished the man responsible, and not so much the franchise and fans.

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