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scout · 09-12-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

You have it wrong this time. If he wrote a story about racism on the Celtics, I'd be in your corner. But he didn't. he wrote it about racism and the red Sox. Big, very big difference. Seriously you should come to know a few things about how the Yawkey's did business. Tom Yawkey was not Walter Brown, and none of his employees were Red Auerbach when it came to racial matters.

Are you talking about THE Tom Yawkey. The guy died in 1976, that would be 31 years ago. Some media members were yapping a very short while ago why the Celtics couldn't acquire big time free agents because Boston was racist. Not hearing a peep out of them now are we.

***Tunescribe*** · 09-12-2007, 10:52 PM

Here is my response:

Howard,

How on earth did that column get by your editors? I'm assuming you DO have a competent editor or two working with you. My goodness man, your contradictions are downright embarrassing!

"The Patriots' 38-14 win was largely untainted, for the tape was confiscated in the first quarter."

"Should it turn out that the New England tape is damaging, and Belichick and the Patriots cheated their way to an opening day win ... "

And then you have the temerity to equate Belichick's rule-breaking with the criminal actions of Bryant, Bonds and Ryder?! You, sir, are a very careless writer with an unfortunate history of questionable credibility.
You also need an editor. Really. I'm willing to offer my services.

stcjones · 09-13-2007, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

IMO Howard is an excellent writer, maybe the best at ESPN, but does have his personal motives in this. He just made the leap to ESPN, and his job is to offer social commentary, often with a racial perspective. IOT establish his bona fides, he has decided to forge a bond with African American athletes and develop "street cred". For that reason he criticized the NFLPA for not defending Vick, an opinion which reflected an underground sentiment among many African American NFL players. That stance will grant him future access to athletes who would be unwilling to speak to anyone else. In this current situation re: BB, Howard is putting pressure on Upshaw to demand a strict penalty against BB commensurate with penalties meted out to black "blue collar" athletes as a symbol of "fairness". The BB situation has little to do any more with the phony "cheating" scandal, and has become political both among the owners, players and media. IMO this is the first real test for Goodell, requiring true foresight and wisdom. What Goodell should do is penalize the Jets for leaking confidential information from the League Office to the media, dismiss all charges, and warn all clubs to cease and desist future camera play or risk multiple game suspensions. I'm afraid Goodell won't have the foresight to see that is the best course of action, and instead will yield to the mob and punish BB and the Pats. IMO this will be a devastating move for the League, unjustifiably calling into question the integrity of the game over a petty incident.

great post......this is exactly what I was trying to say.....without SAYING it!!! Obviously have to be careful when you even remotely criticize someone of being "racially" biased I guess.....But this guy did come out and back up Michael Vick, and I just would be interested to see how hard he would be gunning for the coach....If this were Tony Dungy or Romeo Crennel......Just food for thought......Thx.....Oh, and I agree with your ideas on penalty ........a stern warning to all teams.....this is being done by everyone in one form or another.....

stcjones · 09-13-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by upstater1

You have it wrong this time. If he wrote a story about racism on the Celtics, I'd be in your corner. But he didn't. he wrote it about racism and the red Sox. Big, very big difference. Seriously you should come to know a few things about how the Yawkey's did business. Tom Yawkey was not Walter Brown, and none of his employees were Red Auerbach when it came to racial matters.

I know that he wrote a book about the racism in the Red Sox organization so many years ago. I've read parts of his book, and it is interesting and revealing. However, as was stated earlier, this guy came out in defense of Michael Vick despite his absolutely horrific acts, and thought he should catch a break on the punishment phase. It seems like he has a DOUBLE STANDARD........Also, if you don't think that there are alot of people in the south that think that Boston is a "racist" town......You are missing something....one man's opinion

stcjones · 09-13-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scout

Are you talking about THE Tom Yawkey. The guy died in 1976, that would be 31 years ago. Some media members were yapping a very short while ago why the Celtics couldn't acquire big time free agents because Boston was racist. Not hearing a peep out of them now are we.

amen......

upstater1 · 09-13-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scout

Are you talking about THE Tom Yawkey. The guy died in 1976, that would be 31 years ago. Some media members were yapping a very short while ago why the Celtics couldn't acquire big time free agents because Boston was racist. Not hearing a peep out of them now are we.

I really don't understand what your point is here.