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Old 09-04-2007, 05:29 PM   #1
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Default From a Jets fan, I would like to hear some Positives about the Patriots from Pat fans

And here are some of my positives as a Jets fan on the Jets.

It's kinda long, but it's just how I feel.
These are some of my positives right here.

-1st offseason in 2 or 3 seasons where Chad Pennington has been healthy

-We had a solid draft in terms of drafting starters for this Defense. We drafted D.Revis out of Pittsburg who was the #1 ranked CB in the Nation, and we also drafted D.Harris out of Michigan who was the #3 ranked MLB in the Nation. (Plus he played as a 3-4 IMLB)

-Last season Brick and Mangold were thrown into the fire as first year players and started all 16 games on the O-Line (As rookies). Ferguson had a chance to play against some of the best DE's in the game in Freeney, Seymour, and J.Taylor. Like I said before... Brick and Mangold starting all 16 games last season could have been a blessing in disguise for this upcoming season and actually one of the best things that has ever happened to this O-Line.

-The addition of Thomas Jones. K.Barlow and D.Blaylock are now long gone in the eyes of Jet fans. We now have a running back in Thomas Jones who can be our Work-Horse and a feature back in this Offense. Thats something that the coaching staff couldn't ask in K.Barlow, D.Blaylock, C.Houston or even L.Washington as a rookie last season. I feel the addition of Jones will help Leon Washington is so many different ways.

-Our Recievers. L.Coles, J.Cotch, J.Mac, B.Smith and C.Stukey is one hell of a group for opposing secondarys to try an keep up with. Last year Cotchery had one hell of a season for a first year starter, and first year working with Chad for a full season. Coles was tough as nails, J.Mac has been playing great this whole offseason, B.Smith can do alot of different things and atleast keep the Defense honest and C.Stucky has alot of potential to make some big plays for us this season. I like what I see in this group of WR's.

-Coaching staff, I love the fact that Mangini learned from two of the Best in BB and BP's. Last season we made the playoffs under a rookie coach in Mangini and a first year OC in Martys boy. This year I'm expecting big things from Mangini and Shotty as they enter year 2 and should have a better feel for the Jets as a team as far as calling the right plays, playing the right players, and overall... Just being better coaches and building upon last season. And we also have one of the best Special teams coach in all of Football in Mike Westhoff

Special teams. We really may have one of the best Special teams in all of Football. J.Miller is a game changer and is almost a promise to leave Chad and the Offense with nice field postion, M.Nugent is turning into one of the best kickers in the AFC East, B.Graham has one of the strongest legs in all of football with a crazy spin, and L.Washington, J.Miller and even C.Stukey all have potential in being play-makers in terms of Punt Returning. (If only J.Miller could catch the ball better)

The Secondary I like the fact that we have Dyson and Revis as our starting corners with J.Miller guarding the slot recievers and D.Barrett going up against oppsing teams 4th string WR.

Dyson may not be a speed burner as a #1 CB, but he does have experience and leadership with nice coverage skills.

Revis may be starting as a rookie but I feel he can be a solid #2 CB for this Jets team this year.Would Mangini really start Revis if he wasn't ready?

Miller seems like the perfect #3 CB because he is fast, quick, explosive, physical, and will be guarding opposing teams slot WR.

And Coleman and Rhodes are nice to have as starting Safetys. But Kerry Rhodes is becoming great in the eyes of many... Not just Jet fans either.

Our 2nd year playing the 3-4 I honestly feel that our Defense will benefit in so many different ways from playing within the 3-4 for the 2nd year in a row. Last year they were all rookies in a way playing in a new system with Mangini calling the shots, and had to overcome a learning curve. This year the confidence should be up in our players, which is huge is my eyes, and we should also start to see them take up blocks and execute plays better on 3rd downs.

The fact that we have players in the front 7 such as Ellis, Robertson, Vilma, Hobson, Barton, and B.Thomas in year 2 under a 3-4 D when all they ever knew how to play was the 4-3 under Herm Edwards is really starting to excite me as fan. Add the fact that we just drafted a player in D.Harris who played the 3-4 D in Michigan... And guess what? We just may have a Defense this year.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:31 PM   #2
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What? When you ask for positives on the Pats, doesn't that insinuate that there are negatives? Jeezus, will the disrespect ever end?

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not really sure that i care much for an unsolicited circle jerk in green
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I'm positive we are going to bet the jets.

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DWC, Rhodes is the biggest guy that I worry about. Frankly, he's the only guy I worry about on the Jet's defense. I'm surprised he warranted just a token mention in your list.

The Jets have a fabulous pair of WRs that will give NE trouble.

With regard to NE, I worry about a couple things

1) Will NE do a good job of picking up the blitz?

2) Will NE's WRs be on the same page as Brady?

3) Will NE's safeties be good/healthy enough to be a factor in coverage?

Frankly, other than those issues, I view most everything else as a strength. Not to be pompous or arrogant, but I found it shorter to list the concerns than the strengths.

Edit to add special teams coverage. Thanks to BOR for bring that up.
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I'm sure he'd have asked you to be the pivot man if he'd known. Though I must say no mention of Hank Poteat as a positive shows a true lack of football knowledge, not to mention class!

Pats positives:
- D-line is deeper.
- Linebackers are more aligned with their strengths then they have been for a couple years.
- Secondary isn't looking too shabby at the moment.
- O-line is deep, going into their second year in a new system, has some continuity building.
- Our QB is adequete.
- The new RB seems to be developing nicely and it's not a bad talent pool behind him.
- The WR pool may challenge the Jests a bit this season.
- TE may start slow, but if the rehabs get back it's looking solid.
- PK seems to be developing nicely.
- Best LS in the game.
- Return men are still shaking out, but there's some hope there with a deep and experienced pool.

Biggest Concerns:
- P is a concern.
- Coverage teams will be the big question mark until we see how things shake out.
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And here are some of my positives as a Jets fan on the Jets.

It's kinda long, but it's just how I feel.
These are some of my positives right here.

-1st offseason in 2 or 3 seasons where Chad Pennington has been healthy

-We had a solid draft in terms of drafting starters for this Defense. We drafted D.Revis out of Pittsburg who was the #1 ranked CB in the Nation, and we also drafted D.Harris out of Michigan who was the #3 ranked MLB in the Nation. (Plus he played as a 3-4 IMLB)

-Last season Brick and Mangold were thrown into the fire as first year players and started all 16 games on the O-Line (As rookies). Ferguson had a chance to play against some of the best DE's in the game in Freeney, Seymour, and J.Taylor. Like I said before... Brick and Mangold starting all 16 games last season could have been a blessing in disguise for this upcoming season and actually one of the best things that has ever happened to this O-Line.

-The addition of Thomas Jones. K.Barlow and D.Blaylock are now long gone in the eyes of Jet fans. We now have a running back in Thomas Jones who can be our Work-Horse and a feature back in this Offense. Thats something that the coaching staff couldn't ask in K.Barlow, D.Blaylock, C.Houston or even L.Washington as a rookie last season. I feel the addition of Jones will help Leon Washington is so many different ways.

-Our Recievers. L.Coles, J.Cotch, J.Mac, B.Smith and C.Stukey is one hell of a group for opposing secondarys to try an keep up with. Last year Cotchery had one hell of a season for a first year starter, and first year working with Chad for a full season. Coles was tough as nails, J.Mac has been playing great this whole offseason, B.Smith can do alot of different things and atleast keep the Defense honest and C.Stucky has alot of potential to make some big plays for us this season. I like what I see in this group of WR's.

-Coaching staff, I love the fact that Mangini learned from two of the Best in BB and BP's. Last season we made the playoffs under a rookie coach in Mangini and a first year OC in Martys boy. This year I'm expecting big things from Mangini and Shotty as they enter year 2 and should have a better feel for the Jets as a team as far as calling the right plays, playing the right players, and overall... Just being better coaches and building upon last season. And we also have one of the best Special teams coach in all of Football in Mike Westhoff

Special teams. We really may have one of the best Special teams in all of Football. J.Miller is a game changer and is almost a promise to leave Chad and the Offense with nice field postion, M.Nugent is turning into one of the best kickers in the AFC East, B.Graham has one of the strongest legs in all of football with a crazy spin, and L.Washington, J.Miller and even C.Stukey all have potential in being play-makers in terms of Punt Returning. (If only J.Miller could catch the ball better)

The Secondary I like the fact that we have Dyson and Revis as our starting corners with J.Miller guarding the slot recievers and D.Barrett going up against oppsing teams 4th string WR.

Dyson may not be a speed burner as a #1 CB, but he does have experience and leadership with nice coverage skills.

Revis may be starting as a rookie but I feel he can be a solid #2 CB for this Jets team this year.Would Mangini really start Revis if he wasn't ready?

Miller seems like the perfect #3 CB because he is fast, quick, explosive, physical, and will be guarding opposing teams slot WR.

And Coleman and Rhodes are nice to have as starting Safetys. But Kerry Rhodes is becoming great in the eyes of many... Not just Jet fans either.

Our 2nd year playing the 3-4 I honestly feel that our Defense will benefit in so many different ways from playing within the 3-4 for the 2nd year in a row. Last year they were all rookies in a way playing in a new system with Mangini calling the shots, and had to overcome a learning curve. This year the confidence should be up in our players, which is huge is my eyes, and we should also start to see them take up blocks and execute plays better on 3rd downs.

The fact that we have players in the front 7 such as Ellis, Robertson, Vilma, Hobson, Barton, and B.Thomas in year 2 under a 3-4 D when all they ever knew how to play was the 4-3 under Herm Edwards is really starting to excite me as fan. Add the fact that we just drafted a player in D.Harris who played the 3-4 D in Michigan... And guess what? We just may have a Defense this year.
Hmmm.... Why dont you hgo talk about this on a Jets forum. Or a Bills FOrum. Or Dophins. You see, the problem is we have trouble hearing you here since you are so far below us in the standings!
Sorry, I had to say that, You guys might have a decent season, but the patriots are going to win championshps!
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I'm sure he'd have asked you to be the pivot man if he'd known. Though I must say no mention of Hank Poteat as a positive shows a true lack of football knowledge, not to mention class!

Pats positives:
- D-line is deeper.
- Linebackers are more aligned with their strengths then they have been for a couple years.
- Secondary isn't looking too shabby at the moment.
- O-line is deep, going into their second year in a new system, has some continuity building.
- Our QB is adequete.
- The new RB seems to be developing nicely and it's not a bad talent pool behind him.
- The WR pool may challenge the Jests a bit this season.
- TE may start slow, but if the rehabs get back it's looking solid.
- PK seems to be developing nicely.
- Best LS in the game.
- Return men are still shaking out, but there's some hope there with a deep and experienced pool.

Biggest Concerns:
- P is a concern.
- Coverage teams will be the big question mark until we see how things shake out.
dude is trying to bait--he already posted something comparably goofy in the visitors' locker room...

Take it for however you wanna take it... Jets will win the AFC East and the Patriots

and i am more of a flanker--you know--old school
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dude is trying to bait--he already posted something comparably goofy in the visitors' locker room...

and i am more of a flanker--you know--old school
That explains why I always feel the need to watch my back around you.
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