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Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
I like Washington, he's been pretty reliable so far... Without looking at stats, it seems to me he has been able to catch more balls than Stallworth... Either Brady is throwing the ball off when throwing to Stallworth or Washington just has better hands either way, that's the impression I've gotten so far...
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Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
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Originally Posted by SeanBruschi54
Is Washingtons athleticism better than Reche experience?
I honestly dont believe ive seen enough of Kelley to say that it does.
Well, Caldwell's been running with the two's for most of T.C./pre-season and Washington has been starting of late. This is not subtle and yet many here seem to be gleaning something from it that I am not. What am I missing?
Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
I am anxious to see what they do at WR as far as the roster spots go.
In no particular order:
Moss
Stallworth
Welker
Gaffney
Brown
Caldwell
Washington
You know they won't keep 7 Wrs and even 6 is a lot. One of those 7 guys is not going to be on the roster. If it were me, I probably would ask Brown to retire (although I know that may not be popular). With Gaffney hurt, is he still a sure thing on the roster? With Moss and Gaffney hurt, do we want to keep caldwell around? I think so. On the other hand, Washington has looked good.
This is tough!
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Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
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Originally Posted by patsox23
Well, Caldwell's been running with the two's for most of T.C./pre-season and Washington has been starting of late. This is not subtle and yet many here seem to be gleaning something from it that I am not. What am I missing?
Mike Richardson was our "starting" nickel/slot CB. Does that mean Merriweather has dropped to a back up at the nickel/slot spot? The Pats ran seven straight times to start the game. I have a feeling Belichick was trying a few things like getting the rust off Maroney and potentially seeing what Washington's run blocking abilities are.
It seems to me that Belichick didn't approach Friday's game like a typical third preseason game.
Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
I don't think it's so hard. Troy Brown should be put on the regular season PUP list. An injury settlement should be negotiated with Gaffney. We would then have 5 WR's on the roster, 2 on the PUP list (Brown and Jackson) and perhaps one more on the Practice Squad.
Moss will be ready whenever, we don't know when. I am fine playing Stallworth, Caldwell, Welker and Washington until then. We also have Watson and Rivers as receivers, as we wait for Kyle Brady.
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Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas
I am anxious to see what they do at WR as far as the roster spots go.
In no particular order:
Moss
Stallworth
Welker
Gaffney
Brown
Caldwell
Washington
You know they won't keep 7 Wrs and even 6 is a lot. One of those 7 guys is not going to be on the roster. If it were me, I probably would ask Brown to retire (although I know that may not be popular). With Gaffney hurt, is he still a sure thing on the roster? With Moss and Gaffney hurt, do we want to keep caldwell around? I think so. On the other hand, Washington has looked good.
Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
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Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas
I am anxious to see what they do at WR as far as the roster spots go.
In no particular order:
Moss
Stallworth
Welker
Gaffney
Brown
Caldwell
Washington
You know they won't keep 7 Wrs and even 6 is a lot. One of those 7 guys is not going to be on the roster. If it were me, I probably would ask Brown to retire (although I know that may not be popular). With Gaffney hurt, is he still a sure thing on the roster? With Moss and Gaffney hurt, do we want to keep caldwell around? I think so. On the other hand, Washington has looked good.
This is tough!
Brown will likely start the season on the PUP. Come week six, we will see from there where we are with injuries and how the other back ups are doing. I don't think Brown will be cut or retire though.
Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
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Originally Posted by Rob0729
Mike Richardson was our "starting" nickel/slot CB. Does that mean Merriweather has dropped to a back up at the nickel/slot spot? The Pats ran seven straight times to start the game. I have a feeling Belichick was trying a few things like getting the rust off Maroney and potentially seeing what Washington's run blocking abilities are.
It seems to me that Belichick didn't approach Friday's game like a typical third preseason game.
I think we both know that there's a difference between Mike Richardson starting at nickel and Kelley Washington starting and playing a lot of the game at one of the two starting WR spots. As for Belichick not approaching Friday's game in typical 3rd preseason game mode...I disagree. I kind of thought it was a text-book example of a 3rd pre-season game.
Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
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Originally Posted by patsox23
I think we both know that there's a difference between Mike Richardson starting at nickel and Kelley Washington starting and playing a lot of the game at one of the two starting WR spots. As for Belichick not approaching Friday's game in typical 3rd preseason game mode...I disagree. I kind of thought it was a text-book example of a 3rd pre-season game.
What do you mean?
I mean that the Pats came out clearly to establish the running game and didn't care to pass it at all. Typically, you approach the third preseason game as if it was a real game in a lot of respects. The Pats were determined to establish the run and get the rust off of Maroney no matter if drives failed or not. They didn't even try to hide it to the Panthers. I have never seen the Pats or for that matter any other team approach a third preseason game like that on offense.
Most of the time, teams script a first drive to score points and get a rhythm going in both the passing and running game. McDaniels scripted a drive to get Maroney going even if the drive failed. You didn't think it was odd that the Pats just kept on running the ball in most of the first two drives eventhough they went three and out on the first drive? The Pats run 9 straight times before Brady threw his first pass.
Also, Washington started and played when the Pats had no intention to throw the ball. They may have been testing his blocking skills outside which he hasn't had a chance to see since he played the slot most of the preseason. When they started to throw the ball, they rotated both Caldwell and Washington.
Washington may have surpassed Caldwell or maybe Belichick was just testing Washington's blocking ability, but one thing is pretty certain in my eyes is that Belichick was approaching this game different than other third games. Maybe I am the only one who saw it this way, but I did think the Pats were far more interested in getting Maroney going early and test the shoulder than trying to get the offense as a whole going. I can't remember seeing that in a third preseason game.
Re: NOW I buy the "Washington's pre-season role shows he's staying" argument
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Originally Posted by Rob0729
I mean that the Pats came out clearly to establish the running game and didn't care to pass it at all. Typically, you approach the third preseason game as if it was a real game in a lot of respects. The Pats were determined to establish the run and get the rust off of Maroney no matter if drives failed or not. They didn't even try to hide it to the Panthers. I have never seen the Pats or for that matter any other team approach a third preseason game like that on offense.
Most of the time, teams script a first drive to score points and get a rhythm going in both the passing and running game. McDaniels scripted a drive to get Maroney going even if the drive failed. You didn't think it was odd that the Pats just kept on running the ball in most of the first two drives eventhough they went three and out on the first drive? The Pats run 9 straight times before Brady threw his first pass.
Also, Washington started and played when the Pats had no intention to throw the ball. They may have been testing his blocking skills outside which he hasn't had a chance to see since he played the slot most of the preseason. When they started to throw the ball, they rotated both Caldwell and Washington.
Washington may have surpassed Caldwell or maybe Belichick was just testing Washington's blocking ability, but one thing is pretty certain in my eyes is that Belichick was approaching this game different than other third games. Maybe I am the only one who saw it this way, but I did think the Pats were far more interested in getting Maroney going early and test the shoulder than trying to get the offense as a whole going. I can't remember seeing that in a third preseason game.
I seriously doubt any of us missed the fact that we started out wanting to get Maroney a bunch of action. But something I also didn't miss was the fact that Washington kept on playing, and Caldwell saw more action later with the (other) 2's and 3's.