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Old 08-26-2007, 11:49 AM   #11
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So when Brady does it, it's "everyone is doing it..." and "do you expect him not to have sex, etc....".


But when Henry does it, it's a problem?
While I agree that many here have rationalized Brady's misconduct because he's OUR Tom Brady (yet his own Dad was rightly critical of his son's situation) there is a substantive difference in pattern of behaviour, 9 kids by 9 different women, AND lack of support payments.
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:50 AM   #12
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The responses to this are so obvious that I have to assume you're just trying to pick a fight.

When Tom Brady leaves behind a long train of kids by many different women and faces court judgments for failure to pay child support, we'll talk.
Really? And what's the cutoff number before we get to note the obvious double standard here?


I guess we just give Brady a Mulligan for this one, is that it?
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So when Brady does it, it's "everyone is doing it..." and "do you expect him not to have sex, etc....".


But when Henry does it, it's a problem?
Um, Tom had a committed relationship with the mother of his child for a couple years before she became pregnant.

To be compared to Tom's situation, Henry would have needed to be in committted relationships and having children every two years since he was 10 years old.

Unless that's the case, you're trying very hard to lump two very different situations together that don't belong.
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Um, Tom had a committed relationship with the mother of his child for a couple years before she became pregnant.

To be compared to Tom's situation, Henry would have needed to be in committted relationships and having children every two years since he was 10 years old.

Unless that's the case, you're trying very hard to lump two very different situations together that don't belong.

Brady knocked up a woman without being married and left her for another woman. Now, he either did this already knowing that the mother-to-be was pregnant or hopped from one bed to another with barely a pause to catch his breath. Exactly how 'commited' do you consider that?
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Brady knocked up a woman without being married and left her for another woman. Now, he either did this already knowing that the mother-to-be was pregnant or hopped from one bed to another with barely a pause to catch his breath. Exactly how 'commited' do you consider that?
So you're saying they were together for two years and did nothing? The first time they had sex was the night she got pregnant and Brady bailed? He was with her for two years just to get her in the sack for that one night and it went bad?

I've never suggested that we should build a golden statue in Tom's honor for his wonderful actions, simply that his situation does not come even remotely close to what Travis Henry has done or many other people in average society.

Tom broke up with the mother, not the child. As many mentioned the last time this argument came up, being in a loveless marriage isn't better for a child than having split parents. A man doesn't fly across the country to witness the birth of his child and then wants nothing to do with it.
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So you're saying they were together for two years and did nothing? The first time they had sex was the night she got pregnant and Brady bailed? He was with her for two years just to get her in the sack for that one night and it went bad?

I've never suggested that we should build a golden statue in Tom's honor for his wonderful actions, simply that his situation does not come even remotely close to what Travis Henry has done or many other people in average society.

Tom broke up with the mother, not the child. As many mentioned the last time this argument came up, being in a loveless marriage isn't better for a child than having split parents. A man doesn't fly across the country to witness the birth of his child and then wants nothing to do with it.
Who cares how long they were together? They were obviously having sex up until the very end. The difference between Brady and Henry is a matter of degree, not kind.
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Who cares how long they were together? They were obviously having sex up until the very end. The difference between Brady and Henry is a matter of degree, not kind.
If Tom was to get his new girlfriend pregnant and they were to split up, then I would definately have much stronger feelings against him. I think you saw that on this board months ago when the false rumors came out that Gisele was also pregnant.

I don't have strong feelings either way on what happened in the end with Bridget but many reports do suggest that the relationship was ending and it is very possible that she tried to get pregnant to get him to stay. It was said that Tom was very surprised by the news of her pregnancy.

That doesn't sound like someone that took off when she got pregnant. Not one single report has suggested that he left her when he found out about the baby.

As I mentioned, Tom flew to California to see his child being born. That's much different from "Oh your pregnant? Bye, I'll send you a check."
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If Tom was to get his new girlfriend pregnant and they were to split up, then I would definately have much stronger feelings against him. I think you saw that on this board months ago when the false rumors came out that Gisele was also pregnant.

I don't have strong feelings either way on what happened in the end with Bridget but many reports do suggest that the relationship was ending and it is very possible that she tried to get pregnant to get him to stay. It was said that Tom was very surprised by the news of her pregnancy.
Do you think back on what you've written? You'd rather impugn the name of the mother regarding getting deliberately pregnant with absolutely no evidence at all than simply admit that what Brady did was wrong and that he should be given criticism just as Henry is.

And flying to watch your kid being born when you're not going to be around to raise him doesn't mean a damned thing.
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Who cares how long they were together? They were obviously having sex up until the very end. The difference between Brady and Henry is a matter of degree, not kind.
You are either a person trying to gain attention via playing devil's advocate very badly or extremely stupid.

It's not a matter of degree, it's a matter of personal responsibility for ones actions. The lack of responsibilty that both he and the women showed prior to conceiving these children and the lack of responsibilty Henry shows having to be dragged into court to pay for the care of these children Care which will be financial only, as I can guarantee you he will be unable and unwilling to play the role of nurturing father for nine seperate families.

Let's see, who am I going to give the benefit of the doubt to?

A guy whom has conceived one child out of wedlock, but has shown the utmost commitment to him and the mother......or

A guy whom has taken part in creating nine seperate families and shown no commitment to anyone other than himself via investing in huge amounts of decorative bling and on top of that, as court records show, being completely financially irresponsible?

Let's see, 9 different baby mommas, Hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of bling and lots of legal trouble.......

Oops, I better stop or I might be accused of "stereotyping".

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Do you think back on what you've written? You'd rather impugn the name of the mother regarding getting deliberately pregnant with absolutely no evidence at all than simply admit that what Brady did was wrong and that he should be given criticism just as Henry is.

And flying to watch your kid being born when you're not going to be around to raise him doesn't mean a damned thing.
How do you know he won't be around to take part in raising him. Apparantly you can take a ton of leeway in judging Brady's character based upon scant evidence but you can't make judgement on Henry by expounding on mountains worth of evedence.

I'll tell you what.....when Brady exhibits SIMILAR overall irresponsibility, you'll havd an argument. Until then, you really sound silly.

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