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Old 08-11-2007, 06:50 AM   #11
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I liked hearing Mel Mitchell's name. As well as Bam.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:03 AM   #12
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I don't know how you can call Gutierrez a winner. He put up some of the worst passes I've ever seen. They looked more like punts than passes.

I thought the biggest winner was Justin Rodgers.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:04 AM   #13
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I wonder why BB kept James Sanders out of action. I couldn't see the game, but I recall hearing that he wasn't on the field, unless someone can correct me. Same for Pierre Woods.
Not sure even Hawkins and Woods were there, from Mike Reiss:

August 10, 2007
Game attendance
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff
The Patriots are in the middle of their warmups. Here is a list of players we haven't spotted:

WR Donte Stallworth
S Artrell Hawkins
RB Laurence Maroney
ILB Eric Alexander
ILB Junior Seau
OLB Pierre Woods
OL Billy Yates
WR Randy Moss
TE Benjamin Watson
TE Kyle Brady
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Tuned in this morning precisely to see this thread.
Good start, Mark!

Too many distractions while viewing to have many observations myself.
(Visiting family wrenching away the remote to toggle to Sox, etc.)

Funny how any game action
eclipses what we think we know from camp exercises.
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Sammy Morris looked decent ,also.A good pickup,methinks....
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:34 AM   #16
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I don't know how you can call Gutierrez a winner. He put up some of the worst passes I've ever seen. They looked more like punts than passes.

I thought the biggest winner was Justin Rodgers.
as you may read, many of us are calling Gut a 'winner' based upon his pocket presence and decision making.

Yes his throws were pennington-esque at times, but the kid is young and was undrafted--all things considered, he is a winner for not looking lost and for having a good deal of upside.

They can't all be #12...
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:35 AM   #17
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see: Richardson, Mike
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WINNERS
Gaffney, Harrison, Gay, Kaycur, Gutierrez and Rogers.

LOSERS
Mills, Mays

Add Washington in there as a winner too....and you missed one of the biggest losers of last night....could cost him a roster spot......L. Anam......

FWIW, I think Gutz played really well in his first playing time in the NFL......while I am still not sold on Cassel being able to get it done.....
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And I would also like to add Faulk as a winner. That guy is so under appreciated. That one play where he reached down to catch a ball that was at his knees without even breaking stride was really something. You can tell Tom really trusts him (as does Belichick.)
good point....Kevin made some exceptional plays last night....
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does anyone here think that Kight turned the wrong way on that endzone corner route? the announcers were lambasting Cassel, but I think that Moss, Gaffney, Caldwell, Welker, Watson, Vrabel, Stallworth, Brown and a few others would have made that catch
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