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Old 06-22-2007, 10:06 PM   #1
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Default OT: Larry Johnson wanting Tomlinson money - Like Asante situation wanting Clements $?

Here goes another disgruntled player who wants as big money as the best in the game.

Larry Johnson is threatening to sit out the season unless he is paid Ladanian Tomlinson money just like Asante Samuel wants Nate Clements type money.

Very similar indeed - Larry is a big part of the chiefs offense and they would be in trouble without him as well as in our situation Asante helps solidify our secondary big time as well.

I think Larry has been paying close attention to what Asante is doing and now we have 2 excellent players near the top at thier respective positions who refuse to play for a more than decent wage.

Is there no end to this?

I think Larry is as important to KC as Asante is to our Patriots - But both are asking a bit too much,wouldn't you say?
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Old 06-22-2007, 10:14 PM   #2
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I think Larry has been paying close attention to what Asante is doing and now we have 2 excellent players near the top at thier respective positions who refuse to play for a more than decent wage.

* I don't think Samuel and Johnson are the 1st players to sit out trying to get more money. I don't really see why it even bothers anyone anymore. It's the way it is and as been for years now. And I expect there to be a Patriots player do about the same thing every year.
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I think Larry has been paying close attention to what Asante is doing and now we have 2 excellent players near the top at thier respective positions who refuse to play for a more than decent wage.

* I don't think Samuel and Johnson are the 1st players to sit out trying to get more money. I don't really see why it even bothers anyone anymore. It's the way it is and as been for years now. And I expect there to be a Patriots player do about the same thing every year.
Yeah,I think Warren is next - or will it be Wilfork?
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I don't think Clements derserves Clements' money.
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Larry is a big part of the chiefs offense and they would be in trouble without him as well as in our situation Asante helps solidify our secondary big time as well.
Simliar, yes. But also very distinct.

Personally, I think men should be men.

Honor the contract you sign or don't sign it in the first place. (This doesn't as apply to Samuel, per se, but the idea applies.)
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Simliar, yes. But also very distinct.

Personally, I think men should be men.

Honor the contract you sign or don't sign it in the first place. (This doesn't as apply to Samuel, per se, but the idea applies.)
I'd have more sympathy for Larry Johnson. He has a limited window to get paid the money he deserves for running 1700 yards in back to back seasons. And yet he's getting paid at the bottom of the scale for running backs. He only has a window of 3 or 4 more years before he hits that old "RB lost his tread" stage. Asante can make big bank after this year. IMO, the two players are entirely different. Johnson has been in the league longer, he's 27 going on 28, has 3 years left. Asante is 2 years longer, and will probably play at a high level for another 6 years.

If I were Johnson, I'd be very tempted myself to ask for more, especially after Vermeil benched him for the first part of his career.
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I'd have more sympathy for Larry Johnson. He has a limited window to get paid the money he deserves for running 1700 yards in back to back seasons. And yet he's getting paid at the bottom of the scale for running backs. He only has a window of 3 or 4 more years before he hits that old "RB lost his tread" stage. Asante can make big bank after this year. IMO, the two players are entirely different. Johnson has been in the league longer, he's 27 going on 28, has 3 years left. Asante is 2 years longer, and will probably play at a high level for another 6 years.

If I were Johnson, I'd be very tempted myself to ask for more, especially after Vermeil benched him for the first part of his career.
I would trade Maroney for Johnson in a split second - even though theres several years age gap.

Maybe the best Penn State football player ever to join the NFL and that speaks enormous vloumes of his potential possibly even greater years yet to come.
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Larry Johnson i scheduled to make 1.7 million in 2007 and definitely deserves more. Asante will make 7.8 millions - huge difference.

I´m not sure how much LJ is asking for but according to this http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/158912.html there have been some reports saying he wants a 8 years 80 - 90 millions deal but his agent denies that is the case.
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I'd have more sympathy for Larry Johnson. He has a limited window to get paid the money he deserves for running 1700 yards in back to back seasons. And yet he's getting paid at the bottom of the scale for running backs. He only has a window of 3 or 4 more years before he hits that old "RB lost his tread" stage. Asante can make big bank after this year. IMO, the two players are entirely different. Johnson has been in the league longer, he's 27 going on 28, has 3 years left. Asante is 2 years longer, and will probably play at a high level for another 6 years.

If I were Johnson, I'd be very tempted myself to ask for more, especially after Vermeil benched him for the first part of his career.
You're right, and I do sympathize with his position. I think the trade system needs to be re-worked for cases like this. Not to belittle LJ at all, but KC (like Denver) is also an assembly like for RB dating back to Okoye and further.

He does deserve more, but he signed into a contract, and one that he was once elated to get not too long ago. KC knows this, too. They will be reluctant to give in, as NE with Samuel.

It's a tough situation with the NFL. Can't guarantee contracts for either side. Too risky for the teams, injury-wise; too risky for the (talented) player, gamble-wise. Yet, this billion-dollar industry can't seem to make ~1000 (main)employees content...

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What about a guy like Jackson from STL? He had MORE yards than Tomlinson last year, still on his rookie deal.

Does he deserve more than LJ? Is it possible to have purely performance driven salary system? It's a supply and demand economy based on Marxist ideals (my def: capitalism is good for all, but should be spread appropriately while still being even, for the benefit of all. Which was the original idea that tail-spun.)

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