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Old 02-25-2007, 08:46 PM   #1
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I had it on at work today, saw Ireland play England.. I dont understand it, but it sure look fun to play and watch.. I rather watch this than any Nascar event... But does anyone here follow it at all?? Just curious..
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:48 PM   #2
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Actually, I was watching the race today.
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Actually, I was watching the race today.
this point in the year might be the worst tv wise without the nfl and spring training just starting
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this point in the year might be the worst tv wise without the nfl and spring training just starting
Very true, and when you try to watch like sportscenter to hear about info all they show is nascar.
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Very true, and when you try to watch like sportscenter to hear about info all they show is nascar.
or if you watch some of the local shows its nascar, celtics losing again, and dice k mania!
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Don't get to watch it because I don't have cable, but I used to play it at the college and club level in Boston.

What do you want to know?

Really, the best way to learn the game is to buy the EA-Sports Rugby game. It's a lot of fun, and it's very realistic in my opinion.

10 Basic rules:

1. Can only pass it backward
2. No blocking (obstruction)
3. If you drop the ball, can't knock it forward (illegal, called a "knock-on," change of possession or, if you handle it after knocking it forward, it's a penalty)
4. What happens when a penalty is called? The offense gets to choose a scrumdown, a penalty play (essentially a set play), a kick for 3 points, or a kick into touch (i.e. out of bounds). [Why bother kicking out of bounds? Rugby is the ultimate field position game.]
5. You can kick the ball forward at any time, on the ground, in the air. Behind your own 22 yard line, the ball can travel directly out. Beyond your twenty two, it has to hit in bounds before travelling out, or else the opposing team gets possession at the point where you kicked it from.
6. If you're running with the ball and you want to kick for 3, it's got to be a drop kick.
7. You have to physically set the ball down to score a try (i.e. a try = TD). When you set the ball down, that's the hash spot for the kicker. Let's say you score along the sideline, the kicker has to then kick it from the sideline.
8. The ball sets the line of scrimmage even during play, so if my guy is running with the ball and I'm up ahead of him, and if he kicks it, I can't touch the ball until I run behind the guy who kicked it (alternately, he can also run forward after the ball).
8A. If I want to get in a ruck (ball on the ground, a bunch of teammates engage and try to step over the ball to establish possession) or maul (kind of like what football O-lineman do at the goalline, push the ball carrier forward and grab defenders to throw them out of the way) I have to be behind the ball (the guy with the ball).
9. If you run out of bounds, it's the other team's ball. They throw it in in a line-out.
10. Drink a lot of beer immediately after the game. If you get into a fight on the pitch, I feel sorry for you, because you'll be hogtied to the guy you got into a fight with (back to back) and you'll be drinking the whole time with your one free hand.
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Don't get to watch it because I don't have cable, but I used to play it at the college and club level in Boston.

What do you want to know?

Really, the best way to learn the game is to buy the EA-Sports Rugby game. It's a lot of fun, and it's very realistic in my opinion.

10 Basic rules:

1. Can only pass it backward
2. No blocking (obstruction)
3. If you drop the ball, can't knock it forward (illegal, called a "knock-on," change of possession or, if you handle it after knocking it forward, it's a penalty)
4. What happens when a penalty is called? The offense gets to choose a scrumdown, a penalty play (essentially a set play), a kick for 3 points, or a kick into touch (i.e. out of bounds). [Why bother kicking out of bounds? Rugby is the ultimate field position game.]
5. You can kick the ball forward at any time, on the ground, in the air. Behind your own 22 yard line, the ball can travel directly out. Beyond your twenty two, it has to hit in bounds before travelling out, or else the opposing team gets possession at the point where you kicked it from.
6. If you're running with the ball and you want to kick for 3, it's got to be a drop kick.
7. You have to physically set the ball down to score a try (i.e. a try = TD). When you set the ball down, that's the hash spot for the kicker. Let's say you score along the sideline, the kicker has to then kick it from the sideline.
8. The ball sets the line of scrimmage even during play, so if my guy is running with the ball and I'm up ahead of him, and if he kicks it, I can't touch the ball until I run behind the guy who kicked it (alternately, he can also run forward after the ball).
8A. If I want to get in a ruck (ball on the ground, a bunch of teammates engage and try to step over the ball to establish possession) or maul (kind of like what football O-lineman do at the goalline, push the ball carrier forward and grab defenders to throw them out of the way) I have to be behind the ball (the guy with the ball).
9. If you run out of bounds, it's the other team's ball. They throw it in in a line-out.
10. Drink a lot of beer immediately after the game. If you get into a fight on the pitch, I feel sorry for you, because you'll be hogtied to the guy you got into a fight with (back to back) and you'll be drinking the whole time with your one free hand.
I enjoy a good scrum as much as the next guy, but I've got to admit, the way you wrote your post...ahhh, an awful lot of colorful tradition there!

As an aside, my father went over to Ireland in the late 60s and told me about these rugby players. Said they were all built like middle linebackers. Since I was a kid then, that only added to the game's mystique.

What are injuries like in this sport?
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I had it on at work today, saw Ireland play England.. I dont understand it, but it sure look fun to play and watch.. I rather watch this than any Nascar event... But does anyone here follow it at all?? Just curious..
Upstater summed it up better than I could have done.

Yeah, quite a few of us on here like Rugby. You'll find that we are mostly English and therefore not wanting to talk about it too much at this point.

There are plenty of injuries in Rugby, but the rules are obviously designed to protect as many people as possible. One the biggest dangers is the collapse of the scrum. Eight guys push against another eight guys and the people in the middle (the two sets of three guys, called the Front Rows) get it in the neck (literally) and everywhere else. Some people at amateur level get badly hurt and paralysed because of scrum related injuries.
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As it is a contact sport, there are plenty of hard tissue injuries.

Several rugby players have tried out with NFL teams in the past couple of years,. most recently a bloke called Willie Mason tried out with the Jets. He would be a good NFL player.
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Last year while down under I watched a few Australian Rules Football games (matches?). Seems like a very cool sport, kind of half NFL, half rugby.
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