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Old 01-31-2007, 09:17 PM   #41
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Five pages in, and I'm the first person to point out that there's no 2nd round pick tender for RFAs? Embarrassing...

Here's the tender system for RFAs:
Low tender = Team gives up pick in round in which player was originally drafted
Mid-level tender = Team gives up 1st rounder
High tender = Team gives up 1st rounder and 3rd rounder

Welker was undrafted, so the Dolphins would get nothing for him if they offered him the low tender and someone signed him away. He's almost sure to get a mid-level tender, then, and we'd have to give up a 1st to get him.

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Old 01-31-2007, 09:22 PM   #42
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Five pages in, and I'm the first person to point out that there's no 2nd round pick tender for RFAs? Embarrassing...
Those are the old rules. These are the new ones:

This year, as part of the new collective bargaining agreement, a second-round tender has been added. If a team places that tender on a RFA, the original team could match any offer or would receive a second-round pick in return.

The tender amounts are as follows:

Low tender -- $850,000
Second-round tender -- $1.3 million
First-round tender -- $1.85 million
First- and third-round tender -- $2.35 million

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Five pages in, and I'm the first person to point out that there's no 2nd round pick tender for RFAs? Embarrassing...
Refer to pages 35 and 36 of the Amended CBA:

http://www.nflpa.com/CBA/CBA_Complete.aspx

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Refer to pages 35 and 36 of the Amended CBA:

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My sincerest apologies. I'd better get with the times.
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Another important question: would this be trading a 2008 pick, or a 2007 pick? [I presume 2008, which would make more inclined to think about it.]
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Another important question: would this be trading a 2008 pick, or a 2007 pick? [I presume 2008, which would make more inclined to think about it.]
It would occur this year since Welker is a restricted free agent in 2007.

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Who is Wes Walker? - Is he related to JJ Walker of Good Times Fame?
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Apparently, he's a Texas Ranger of some sort...
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anyone that says yes is drunk. there is a reason he is a 3rd reciever on a crappy receiving corps already
I have to disagree with you. Here's why.
Welker LED the Dolphins in receptions with 67. He was second on the Dolphins in yardage.

Welker was the targeted receiver 100 times and caught 67 passes. Of those 67 passes, 33 went for 1st downs. OH, he had 4 drops.

I would think that constitute someone being a little bit MORE than a 3rd receiver.

Welker is a #2/#3 receiver in the Troy Brown mold. Not only that, Welker is a solid KR/PR. Welker could also be considered an emergency kicker.

I think that is definitely worth a #2 pick.

For Comparison (Regular season only):
Caldwell - targeted 102 times. 1 drop. 61 receptions. 760 yards.
Gaffney - targeted 20 times. 2 drops. 11 receptions. 142 yards.
Troy Brown - targeted 75 times. 2 drops. 43 receptions. 384 yards.
Ben Watson - targeted 91 times. 6 drops. 49 receptions. 643 yards.
Daniel Graham - targeted 34 times. 3 drops. 21 receptions. 235 yards.
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