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Do we take the cap hit? let him go? If he goes, do we stick with our guns or draft, sign his replacement..
I'd hate to see him go, Really, but I just dont see them breaking from their trend..
I hope i am wrong.
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I say he retires or gets cut. Although he had 12-13 td's, he is slow as hell. There is not much left in the tank. It's Maroney's time now and the Pats should sign his replacement or draft him.
It wouldn't bother me to see Dillon back at a greatly reduced cap hit. Taking his agent at his word, it doesn't sound as though that's going to happen at least as of now. Things do have a way of changing, however. This we do know, he's not worth 4.4 million.
I'd like to see BB go after a RB iat some point in the draft regardless. That is more appealing than bringing a FA in to replace Dillon IMO.
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Re: What do you think happens to Dillion?
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It wouldn't bother me to see Dillon back at a greatly reduced cap hit. Taking his agent at his word, it doesn't sound as though that's going to happen at least as of now. Things do have a way of changing, however. This we do know, he's not worth 4.4 million.
I'd like to see BB go after a RB iat some point in the draft regardless. That is more appealing than bringing a FA in to replace Dillon IMO.
I think he'll renegotiate because nobody else in this league, at this point in his career, will pay him $4.4 mil. Dillon wants to come back according to a paysite (via BelichickFan).
Draft-niks: Does anyone think Brian Leonard could be groomed as a Dillon replacement? I know Kolby Smith from Louisville has a body and running style similar to Dillon's but Smith didn't produce the numbers in college.
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I don't think he'll renegotiate. There's no reason to, not with how our cap is right now. The Pats will pay him the money, bring him to camp along with some other backs, and there will be competition.
I say the locks are Evans, Maroney, and Faulk. Pass and Mills are in there, not to be forgotten. There will be some rookie free agents, perhaps a Patrick Cobbs type. And one or two shot-in-the-dark free agent running backs, maybe a day two draft choice if he's BPA. If Evans, Maroney, Faulk, Pass and Mills made it over Dillon I woundn't kill myself.
I don't think he'll renegotiate. There's no reason to, not with how our cap is right now. The Pats will pay him the money, bring him to camp along with some other backs, and there will be competition.
I say the locks are Evans, Maroney, and Faulk. Pass and Mills are in there, not to be forgotten. There will be some rookie free agents, perhaps a Patrick Cobbs type. And one or two shot-in-the-dark free agent running backs, maybe a day two draft choice if he's BPA. If Evans, Maroney, Faulk, Pass and Mills made it over Dillon I woundn't kill myself.
Mills is not a RB. Never has been. He went to my high school and played TE all through HS and all through college. He's more of an H-back type like Dallas Clark who doesn't run the ball either.
Pass could be back, but I think probably not.
I suspect BB will try to get a feel for what Dillon is thinking about as far as money as we get into March and FA begins. This would allow them to look at someone in FA and later on, in the draft depending on Dillon's stance.
Seymour is right though. The chips are mostly in the Patriots hands. No other team will pay him anything approaching 4.4 million. Also consider that according to Reiss, he was in on about 25 percent of the offensive snaps the last half of the season. No way BB pays a guy $4.4 million to play 25 percent of the offensive snaps.
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I appreciate that's you're paying attention Sooner, but Mills has to go SOMEWHERE if he makes the roster. I don't think BB puts him at tight end - he likes classic tight ends too much - so he gets put in with the fullback group, which is the other half of the hybrid back geneology.
In the preseason they had Mills primarily coming out of the backfield, usually as a c.ocked fullback, but more often as an I-form fullback than as either a c.ocked wingback or an weak-side tight end. That tells me he's running with the running back pack when camp comes around again.
I would not be shocked! if they renegotiated Dillon, you are right, he's not worth 4.4 million. But there's a good chance they just leave him alone. Its likely his last year and we're not up against the cap, and unless we're planning on throwing silly money around in FA or sliding many other players some sizable bonuses, there's no reason for the front office to perpetuate the "Pats are cheap" mantra that circulates out there in the Land of the Uninformed, such as player agent offices.
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I sincerely hope that Corey and the FO come to a restructuring agreement that is cap-friendly and that Corey assumes the Bettis role with the Pats. There is still mileage in his tank. Go Pats
I appreciate that's you're paying attention Sooner, but Mills has to go SOMEWHERE if he makes the roster. I don't think BB puts him at tight end - he likes classic tight ends too much - so he gets put in with the fullback group, which is the other half of the hybrid back geneology.
In the preseason they had Mills primarily coming out of the backfield, usually as a c.ocked fullback, but more often as an I-form fullback than as either a c.ocked wingback or an weak-side tight end. That tells me he's running with the running back pack when camp comes around again.
I would not be shocked! if they renegotiated Dillon, you are right, he's not worth 4.4 million. But there's a good chance they just leave him alone. Its likely his last year and we're not up against the cap, and unless we're planning on throwing silly money around in FA or sliding many other players some sizable bonuses, there's no reason for the front office to perpetuate the "Pats are cheap" mantra that circulates out there in the Land of the Uninformed, such as player agent offices.
I think you have a point with the personnel groupings as far as Mills goes.
I disagree that BB will simply "leave Dillon alone". Nothing about BBs history here suggests he willfully wastes money. Sure, he misses on some guys like Donald Hayes, but this is different than knowingly paying a player more than his value.
In this case, I would say Dillon is worth no more than $2 or 2.5 million. Some might consider even that figure too generous. Leaving Dillon alone essentially wastes about 2 or 2.5 million of cap space. This is especially true when you look at the percentage of snaps in the 2nd half of the season. That's enough money to sign another player who could possibly have more value than Dillon moving forward. This is especially true considering there are cheaper FA alternatives, and even better, draft picks with youth and upside.
I don't think BB cares what espn and their band of talking heads thinks about him in regard to spending. I don't think he spends a lot of time wondering if he's going to win any man of the year awards with agents. He's already been tagged with that rep. Anything short of trading for someone like Chad Johnson and then signing him to a $100 million dollar deal won't change that (incorrect) perception.
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