Fencer

Three tweets from Albert Breer (read them bottom to top) say
And the response to that was

Bottom line: Mankins can in highest likelihood become a UFA without ever again putting on a Patriots uniform.

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Fencer

Breer doesn't think the franchise tag will hold Mankins either:

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DaBruinz

Um.. No. If the owners chose not to lock out and it's 6 again, then Mankins, McNeill, Jackson, etc, are still considered RFA since they will not have accrued a season.

Also, I can guarantee you that the owners will want a clause in the new CBA that guarantees that they hold the rights to those players since they were RFAed. Those players would be grand-fathered under the old rules. I don't see the owners giving up that leverage.

And, if Mankins held out through the 2011 season, he'd be 30 years old, not having played in 2 years. He'd be lucky to get a contract half of what the Pats offered him.

Mankins needs to man up, period. Even if the 1st year was the $3.26 million or , you add that to whatever signing bonus (hypothetically 12 million) the Pats offered in his deal and the salaries for years 2 and 3 (which would be in the 4.2 and 5.5 million ranges) and he'd pull in about 24 million in 3 years.. That's pretty damn good for a guy who isn't in the top 5 in guards in the league. Even if it was a 6 year deal where the last couple of years tapered down in salary (ala Brady), Mankins would be looking at being 33 and 34 for those years...

Fencer

1. Mankins can keep sitting out until there's a new CBA. If he's not afraid of one year's rust, why would he fear two?

2. Most owners don't benefit from screwing over the guys whose 4 (or 5) years were up this year. Pats and Chargers may be the only two teams who really care. So the other 30 will cave.

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IllegalContact

as long as you can conviince brady to sign for 13M/yr, you might be right

IllegalContact

he doesn't need the money. according to rappoport, he's got almost all of the 7M he's earned in his rookie deal in the bank and lives on a self-sufficient ranch. california conservatives do funny things. just look at pat tillman

DaBruinz

1) Mankins can sit out until there is a new CBA all he wants. It won't change the fact that the Pats will still hold his rights..

And why would he fear 2? Gee, because that's 2 years of NO PRACTICE, No team workouts, and reinforcement that he's just there for the money. Also, a new CBA, more than likely, means less salary cap space. Which would mean less money available for Mankins to be signed. You also seem either refuse to understand or just want to ignore that no team is going to pay Mankins the going rate of guards at that time for someone who has sat out for 2 years.

3) The owners have very little to do with contract negotiations. Most have nothing to do with them other than to sign the documents when their lawyer tells them to. Also, the Pats didn't try and screw Mankins, but all reports. They made him an offer that would have paid him extremely well (somewhere between 6.5 and 8 mil per annum).

Mankins is only screwing himself.

DaBruinz

What are you going on about? How about you stick to the topic at hand and not try to go off-course. One has nothing to do with the other.

ctpatsfan77

The question is what, if anything, will they give up to make that happen? I know that the NFLPA was willing to throw the four- and five-year RFAs under the bus this year if it would have gotten them a new CBA, so it's not out of the question, but I can't quite agree with you that the owners won't give up that leverage.

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IllegalContact

has plenty to do with each other. you're telling mankins to man up and take 65% of what he thinks he's worth. brady should do the same.