PATRIOT64

Alk

again with this backslapping bull****...

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TomBradyWoot

We weren't looking for the Patriots to sign Moss, we were looking for them to trade for him. Plus theres nothing wrong with talking about your team potentially getting a top reciever.

Alk

Yes, unfortunately there is. You are only allowed to talk about three topics on this board and if you choose to post something out of those topics, you will be flamed to no end. Just to clarify, keep within these following topics and you will be just fine.

1. (Insert CURRENT Patriots player) is the greatest to ever play at his position and is a first ballot HOFer.

2. These power ranking are a joke!!

3. When someone starts a speculative thread, you can flame them and then when whatever the speculation is is proven wrong, it is acceptable to start your own thread slapping yourself on the back and acting like a mental midget.

Hope this helps.

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PATRIOT64

My point is not to pat myself on the back but to say that if you think we were going to sign a multi million dollar high profile player in the MIDDLE of the season,let alone in training camp you must be putting teeth under your pillow waiting for the tooth fairy to put money underneath for you or putting chocolate chip cookies and milk near the Christmas tree waiting for Santa to arrive - You have a better chance of those scenerios happening -A Simple equation for those who understand the Pats way...... NO name profile players with talent+Value at their position=A Patriots type player

captain stone

I agree.

Now, I did not expect, nor did I desire, a Randy Moss/Jerry Porter trade. The time for that sort of transaction, if ever, is during the offseason. Otherwise, this place would have been a football version of a traveling circus. Shelley Smith, or some other know-nothing, jock-sniffing bimbo "journalist", would have pitched a tent under the lighthouse for the duration. The FO has made its bed, and will now lie, or die, with Troy, Caldwell, Gabriel and Jackson, +/- Gaffney. Bringing in someone who would command attention, and the ball, might have disrupted, if not destroyed, the trust-building between TB and his other WRs. Not to mention the salary structure.

That being said, there is nothing, at all, wrong with wanting to see your team try to improve itself during the season. I myself wanted a trade for a starting-caliber (or at least starting-capable) LB and/or DB. No ST-Only Need Apply. Alas, it is not to be. The FO has made its bed here, as well. Will the Goldilocks of the Playoffs find these beds too hard, too soft, or just right? That's why they play the games.

In the meantime, while these unusual personnel experiments are conducted to their unknown conclusions, could those amoung you who are self-described residents of Homerville, please refrain from displaying such condescending disdain at those of us who choose not to wear a lemming costume for Halloween, at least until the Patriots win SBXLI?

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PATRIOT64

Agreed that the FO will have made or broken the season by not looking elsewhere outside of the team which of course is the norm here - If I could have taken 1 player in the NFL on our team and to give another team one of our first round draft choices plus a 2nd or 3rd next year it would have been for Brian Urlacher - That man is a beast and instantly makes a defense better-He looked unstoppable against Arizona and was a big factor in some of those game winning turnovers,More than once he has been a 1 man wrecking crew but when you put him teamed up with guys like Tommie Harris its even more dangerous,no wonder the Bears have a great D.

captain stone

I recall a rumour - more likely wishful thinking - that Urlacher was on the trading block before this year's draft. I'd be shocked to learn that Chicago was even considering it. Can you imagine him as a college SS? I would have soiled myself if I were his target.

Two players on the Bears' D who should be on the Patriots, however, are Nathan Vasher (4th round, #110 - 2004) and Mark Anderson (5th round, #159 - 2006). The Pats must invest, heavily, in the LB and DB positions, either via draft, FAs, trades, or a combination thereof.

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pats1

TRADE FOR, not SIGN - Get it RIGHT!!!

Randy Moss is a member of the Oakland Raiders!!!

rookBoston

No need to be self-aggrandizing. You have no idea whether BB was interested in the (supposed) Moss trade or not, or the conditions tied to it.

Any rumor or conjecture that the Pats were/would be interested in Moss came from media and fan speculation. Nothing new there; the FO never talks publicly.

But you're wrong in your generalization that BB doesn't sign big name players, and would never do so. For the right player, under the right circumstances, I'm confident he would make the move. He's generally conservative in terms of cap allocation and use of draft picks, but he's used both in the past when he felt it was good value and advanced the team. Colvin's contact wasn't cheap. He spent quality picks acquiring players like Dillon, Washington, Gabriel, each of which decisively filled a short term roster gap.

This situation this year is different from past years in the fact that

- the roster is deep and young at almost every position (including WR, BTW)
- the team has significant unused cap space, even after the Koppen deal
- Oakland might reasonably be looking for an exist strategy with Moss/Porter... BB has always been willing to cash in on "a deal" when it makes sense
- The Pats have a surplus of draft picks, either 12 or 13 picks are likely in 2007, including two firsts a second and (possibly) two 3rds
- Moss is a unique (once every five years) type of a talent, a disgruntled player on a losing team, and fits the Pats most pressing need

Not every day that all those factors align. Any one of them are valid reasons why BB would not pull the trigger on the deal. Those obstacles, anyway, are easier to overcome now than ever before.

In the end, I still think most fans underestimate the potential of our WR corp. Jackson and Gabriel are fantastic prospects, and Troy is Troy. The fact that Bam hasn't been drafted into service proves that BB isn't anywhere near the bottom of the barrel in terms of options and solutions.

Trading for Moss was never more than an 20-80 proposition. But the fact that is wasn't 0-100 was the basis for the chatter. And that's what this board is for... to speculate on the possibilities and implications.

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