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Old 09-29-2006, 12:26 PM   #31
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Why should we expect more out of Jackson than any of these? Exactly ONE of these players had more than 350 yards in his rookie year. There of course are players who have breakout rookie seasons, but even that doesn't make the player a superstar. As someone just posted, Glenn had a great rookie year.

Is it unreasonable to EXPECT a rookie (the best in a really lousy wide receiver class) to be one of the starting WR's in Game 4 or 5? Is it unreasonable to expect a significant contribution from a rookie who had a hamstring injury in June? I think the answer to both these questions is a resounding "Yes". We are being unreasonable. It is NOT unreasonable to HOPE that Jackson will be a significant contributer for the playoff run and in the playoffs. It is NOT unreasonable to expect him be at least a #3 by the start of NEXT season.

Gabriel is another story. I think that he will be starting after the break. He already is a major contributor. When we win the SUper Bowl this year, we will look back on Gabriel and Maroney as the two key additions that made it happen.

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In honor of the Chad Jackson hysteria: Guess which active probowl-caliber wide receivers had the following statistics their rookie seasons:

1. 12 games/28 catches/329 yards/1 TD

2. 16 games/15 catches/246 yards/0 TD

3. 15 games/23 catches/319 yards/ 1 TD

4. 15 games/10 catches/154 yards/0 TD

5. 11 games/23 catches/273 yards/0 TD

6. 13 games/27 catches/345 yards/0 TD

7. 16 games/35 catches/520 yards/4 TD

8. 16 games/20 catches/279 yards/2 TD

9. 7 games/1 catch/12 yards/0 TD

10. 10 games/ 2 catches/ 30 yards/0 TD

11. 16 games/ 6 catches/ 152 yards/ 1 TD

12. 16 games/ 14 catches/186 yards/ 0 TD


ANSWERS:
1. Chad Johnson, 2nd round
2. Hines Ward, 3rd rd
3. Javon Walker, 1st rd
4. Steve Smith, 3rd rd
5. P. Burress, 1st rd
6. R. Wayne, 1st rd
7. T. Owens, 3rd rd
8. E. Moulds, 1st rd
9. A. Toomer, 2nd rd
10. J. Horn, 5th rd
11. R. Smith, UFA
12. D. Mason, 4th rd
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Old 09-29-2006, 12:52 PM   #32
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Why should we expect more out of Jackson than any of these? Exactly ONE of these players had more than 350 yards in his rookie year. There of course are players who have breakout rookie seasons, but even that doesn't make the player a superstar. As someone just posted, Glenn had a great rookie year.

Is it unreasonable to EXPECT a rookie (the best in a really lousy wide receiver class) to be one of the starting WR's in Game 4 or 5? Is it unreasonable to expect a significant contribution from a rookie who had a hamstring injury in June? I think the answer to both these questions is a resounding "Yes". We are being unreasonable. It is NOT unreasonable to HOPE that Jackson will be a significant contributer for the playoff run and in the playoffs. It is NOT unreasonable to expect him be at least a #3 by the start of NEXT season.

Gabriel is another story. I think that he will be starting after the break. He already is a major contributor. When we win the SUper Bowl this year, we will look back on Gabriel and Maroney as the two key additions that made it happen.

I havent posted in awhile, due to the madness of this board. But, WOW! This is a great thread. Thx, guys. As far as CJ goes, my expectations were about 3 catches a game, and then coming on strong as a secret weapon towards the end of the season. So, for me, thats still possible.
In regards to rookie WR's, it usually takes even the greatest, 3-4 yrs. to reach their full potential. I honestly dont think the receivers are as big of a problem. In watching the games, Brady has been off a little bit, and it seems like the pats off. playcalling has kind of lost their identity. We need to get back to the dink and dunk west coast offense and fight our way down the field. Those routes arent hard for this group of receivers to run. Brady has had all offseason to get comfortable with Caldwell, Maroney, and the other rooks. He was already comfortable with Graham, Watson, Brown and all the other regulars on this field. The only two players that he should be having issues with is Gabriel and Jackson. And, neither has really been on the field. So, I agree and dont understand why anyone feels the need to knock on our receiving core. I am not going to hit the panic button until about week 9. If things dont settle down by then, I would say we are in trouble.
Great posts by everyone involved. And pony, just want to let you know that you are my favorite forum whore
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:47 PM   #33
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Nice work,PoneyE.I did not know that.
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Old 09-29-2006, 01:54 PM   #34
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Doesn't anyone here ever remember me when I used to play for your team????

I had a pretty good rookie year... why doesn't anyone remember this?
The world has moved on since those days. The folken have forgotten.
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I had a great rookie year... just admit it...
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