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Old 08-21-2006, 09:35 AM   #1
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I've heard a ton of people say that there's no head coach who can handle TO.I beg to differ.I've always thought BB was the coach who could keep TO in check.What does some of you guys think?Could BB keep TO in check or would TO just destroy our team like he did the Eagles.
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:39 AM   #2
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Who knows. It's worth noting that Owens and Chad Jackson have had the same basic injury, though, and Belichck is letting Jackson get to 100% without throwing a pissy fit because his manhood is being challenged like Parcells seems to be.
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I haven't been on top of how Tuna is doing with the child, but he is back from his hamstring injury isn't he? I'd imagine BB would treat him like any other player and not participate in the drama.
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I've heard a ton of people say that there's no head coach who can handle TO.I beg to differ.I've always thought BB was the coach who could keep TO in check.What does some of you guys think?Could BB keep TO in check or would TO just destroy our team like he did the Eagles.
I see little difference in Parcells and Belichick when it comes to how they run their football team. Having said that, I think the Cowboys made a huge mistake because I don't believe any coach can control T.O. My reason is that he only cares about himself and he doesn't give a damn about who the coach is. Have we forgotten that Andy Reid is one of the best coaches in the NFL? His style may be different than Belichick but it goes to show that the only person T.O. respects is himself. And maybe Michael Irvin.
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I've heard a ton of people say that there's no head coach who can handle TO.I beg to differ.I've always thought BB was the coach who could keep TO in check.What does some of you guys think?Could BB keep TO in check or would TO just destroy our team like he did the Eagles.
I think the world of Bill Belichick, but I see no evidence that he is the kind of person who is flexible, sensitive or patient enough to help a troubled and self-indulgent individual learn self-discipline and dedication.

BB's way has been to give the team a clear set of guide-lines and to part company with anyone who doesn't stick to them -- if he couldn't bring Terry Glenn into line, I see no reason to think that he could do it for TO.

Edit: I should have said "flexible, sensitive and patient". He certainly is patient when he has to be and his insensitivity can be an asset in dealing with difficult players -- for instance, in allowing himself to be abused by Ty Law/the Postons and not retaliating. But a TO needs something more.
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I've heard a ton of people say that there's no head coach who can handle TO.I beg to differ.I've always thought BB was the coach who could keep TO in check.What does some of you guys think?Could BB keep TO in check or would TO just destroy our team like he did the Eagles.
I look back at the Terry Glenn situation and I doubt he could because I don't think he'd want to.

BB's mode of operation is to eliminate as many distractions as possible and concentrate more on coaching and managing.

Dealing with TO is someting that would take away from the way he wants to run the team.

He doesn't like to babysit.
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I would say it depends on what you mean.

Can BB turn T.O. into a productiver team player? I would say no. At this point in his life TO does not seem to want to listen to anyone or be a team player.

If you mean can BB handle the situation without letting TO run over everyone, I would say yes. TO might be off the team, etc, put BB would not baby TO.

While I share most people's disgust with TO, I would say he's just a crappy person. As far as I know he's not a druggie and doesn't beat up women, etc, so he is not a total loser. When he is on the field he gives 100% all the time, and in the past he seems to have worked his butt off to be in the best shape he can be for the season.

Obviously I am no TO expert, and I would not want him on the Pats, but he's not TOTAL scum.
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While I share most people's disgust with TO, I would say he's just a crappy person. As far as I know he's not a druggie and doesn't beat up women, etc, so he is not a total loser. When he is on the field he gives 100% all the time, and in the past he seems to have worked his butt off to be in the best shape he can be for the season.

Obviously I am no TO expert, and I would not want him on the Pats, but he's not TOTAL scum.
Good points. I also believe that TO had a difficult upbringing and evidently finds co-operating with others and establishing a healthy relationship to authority figures very difficult.
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Good points. I also believe that TO had a difficult upbringing and evidently finds co-operating with others and establishing a healthy relationship to authority figures very difficult.
That may be the case, but one persons problems shouldn't hold an entire organization hostage.

But the way I look at it, EVERYBODY knows what the guy is about.

If you choose to have him on your team, you need to be prepared to deal with everything he brings with him.

If your naive to think that your able to create some profound change in his personality, well then your stupid and deserve what you get.

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Good points. I also believe that TO had a difficult upbringing and evidently finds co-operating with others and establishing a healthy relationship to authority figures very difficult.
There are a lot of people in pro sports that had a difficult upbringing and don't act this way. Marshall Faulk grew up in the poorest part of the United States and Warrick Dunn was raised by his mother who was never home because she worked three jobs. There are a lot more stories like that as well. The guy is in his mid-30s and he's made millions of dollars. I think he's over whatever happened to him when he was seven. That's all a bunch of crap. He got beat up when he was a kid a couple of times and now he can't be a good teammate? Sorry, not buying it. That's just an excuse for someone to act like a jerk.
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