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Brady-To-Branch · 08-09-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

I realize you had to go to the second page of Breer's blog and read the morning practice notes, but you missed one of the more hopeful signs...

I just got KC Joyner's Scientific Football: 2006 and in it he said "Gorin can't run block worth a darn" and predicted that Kaczur will start in his place.

Ichiro · 08-09-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brady-To-Branch

I just got KC Joyner's Scientific Football: 2006 and in it he said "Gorin can't run block worth a darn" and predicted that Kaczur will start in his place.

Joyner's Gorin observation shows that anyone can claim to be a football expert. Gorin is a ok run blocker, especially once he gets going downhill and uses his massive frame. He did a good job the latter half of 2004 (during the AFC championship they ran a lot to the right). Gorin's weakness is pass blocking, where he shows how stiff he is.

Ichiro · 08-09-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by patchick

It strikes me that the days when the OL roster looked like "Dante's School for Wayward Linemen" is long, long, gone. You could field a complete line from draft choices of the past three years:

Kaczur -- Mankins -- Koppen -- Stevenson -- O'Callaghan

I'm really interested in Stevenson. I thought Notre Dame's offensive line was the key to their offense last year. They gave Quinn plenty of time, and allowed the long drives that Charie loves. Also kept ND's bad defense off the field.

Brownfan80 · 08-09-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

I realize you had to go to the second page of Breer's blog and read the morning practice notes, but you missed one of the more hopeful signs...

I've had hopes for O'Callaghan since that picture of him in his hunting attire..

captain stone · 08-09-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiro

Joyner's Gorin observation shows that anyone can claim to be a football expert. Gorin is a ok run blocker, especially once he gets going downhill and uses his massive frame. He did a good job the latter half of 2004 (during the AFC championship they ran a lot to the right). Gorin's weakness is pass blocking, where he shows how stiff he is.

Gorin is, indeed, a better run blocker than pass blocker. That does not mean, however, that he is a good, or even ok, run blocker. All it means is that his run blocking sucks somewhat less than his pass blocking. We are damning with faint praise, really.

Ichiro · 08-09-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by captain stone

Gorin is, indeed, a better run blocker than pass blocker. That does not mean, however, that he is a good, or even ok, run blocker. All it means is that his run blocking sucks somewhat less than his pass blocking. We are damning with faint praise, really.

Oh yeah I'm definetly not saying I think Gorin is the answer or his run blocking is good. I'm just saying its strange that Joyner would mention Gorin's run blocking when his pass blocking is not NFL caliber.

captain stone · 08-09-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiro

Oh yeah I'm definetly not saying I think Gorin is the answer or his run blocking is good. I'm just saying its strange that Joyner would mention Gorin's run blocking when his pass blocking is not NFL caliber.

Maybe he just assumes that everyone knows about his pass blocking...
Or, perhaps more likely, that he was analyzing run blocking in general?

Brady-To-Branch · 08-09-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by captain stone

Maybe he just assumes that everyone knows about his pass blocking...
Or, perhaps more likely, that he was analyzing run blocking in general?

I have Joyner's book and later, in a new thread, I'll post word for word what his film studies reveal.

Some of what he has written about the Pats was suprising and sure to initaite response in the board.

captain stone · 08-09-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brady-To-Branch

I have Joyner's book and later, in a new thread, I'll post word for word what his film studies reveal.

Some of what he has written about the Pats was suprising and sure to initaite response in the board.

Looking forward to it, B-T-B.