RoughingthePasser

Who's Ron Borges?
I'm serious.

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RoughingthePasser

You don't think Tom and Deion chat on the phone?

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Bertil

Good GOD, people! Let's have some perspective.

wRONg has utterly FAILED at eliciting any public response whatsoever from BB and has succeeded over the last five years in relegating himself into obscurity. The only place where his opinion is even discussed is on these boards. His only satisfaction (inasmuch as he is capable of that emotion) can only come from pi$$ing us off. Who cares what he thinks?

BB and TB have careers that are going to end up in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

wRONg is ending up at the bottom of the Birdcage! Talk about poetic justice!

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MoLewisrocks

Apparently Ron defines standup a little differently than the rest of us do. Obviously he wants Brady to take up the poor Deion cause.

Tom leads by example, on and off the field and in his business dealings with the Club. He has spoken about how he believes it is also important for the guys not to see him as an extension of the coaching staff or management (even as he coaches and leads them my example) and how he strives to keep the lines of communication open by remaining one of the guys, someone they can approach and talk to openly. He has apparently worked with Deion away from Gillette. I guarantee you just like with Seymour he will not say a thing about the holdout other than it's unfortunate, it's the business end of football, they need him back and he hopes they work it out.

Ron has long held that the take a little less so we can spread it around and team first, no stars getting the kudos mentality would blow up in the Pat's faces. He respected clubhouse lawyers like Milloy who began warning guys as early as 2002 to worry about your own legacy and not just the teams - that after just one ring. The guy who worried aloud that all that focus on team and coaching was detracting from his and others perception in the league. I guess Ron applauds selfish and self absorbed players. They remind him of himself if he had any athletic ability.

Personally I wish Tommy would tell Deion to quit screwing around with their season and get his ass in to camp. I doubt he will, although hopefully he will at least caution him to continue to think about the potential consequences his actions could entail. Mark Schlereth was on Felgers show with the fill ins today. He talked about how this is to be expected and guys have to do their best to get theirs, because all too often players face the other extreme of being told on Friday that if you do not agree to cut your salary you will be released after the game on Sunday. Still he also said as a player it ticked him off a little when one guy was unwilling to be there for the rest of them as they prepare to get after it. So contrary to what Ron the writer believes, players are torn and have mixed feelings about this too.

oldrover

Ron has had his panties in a bunch ever since his lover Bledsoe fell out of favor. So, he now has no news source within the organization and just throws bombs to get attention. <shrug>

I have no problem with Deion holding out if he feels its the right thing to do personally. Which it may be. And I have no problem with the Patriots not paying him true #1 money if they think its the right thing to do. Which it may be.

spacecrime

I think this is how most feel. Each side is free to make its own decisions and live with them.

It boils down to who will blink first, and that may boil down to the first exhibition game. If Caldwell and Jackson light it up, it'll be curtains for Branch's holdout. If Caldwell and Jackson show cement hands, or they suffer season ending injuries, Branch's position just got stronger.

dhamz

Brett Favre did that last year with Javon Walker and according to many reports lost the respect of the other players in the locker room. Players don't respond to guys who publicly side with management against other players. It is about the worst move Brady could make.

Drewwho

Wow, that is all you can come up with. Are you kidding? If I remember well, Brady played pretty darn well in that game and most of his teammates did not. All he would have done by sticking around after his statement, and he did give a statement, would have been to take questions about his fellow mates poor play. I said it then, and I'll say it now - I believe Tom knew exactly what he was doing when he left after his statement and didn't choose to take questions-he was protecting his teammates.

So what else you got???? Man purse anyone?

DaBruinz

DHamz -
Who said anything about doing it publically? I believe the reference was for Brady to call Deion on the phone.

Again, Brady is a STAND-UP guy and wouldn't call a team-mate out publically for something like that.

MoLewisrocks

I guess we're even then 'cause every time the Colts lose in the playoffs and I listen to hear Peyton take responsibility for his teams failure I here nothing. Well except for that time he threw his metaphors under the bus...