[QUOTE=mgteich;1862633]All stats are affected by blowout games. Posters post based on what they see and how they FEEL about what they see. Stats don't get in the way. Certainly, the view of analysts or players from other teams don't matter. The fact that Belichick has had the same line for the past five years somehow is NOT a vote of encouragement or confidence in the OL. Posters KNOW how weak the talent is.
Our OL has been dissed on this board forever, certainly as long as you have been posting. The bottom line is that the OL has been solid for years. It is BETTER than the OL that won the last two Super Bowls. Both Mankins and Kaczur are upgrades over what we had then.
As I indicated, it is only here that Light and Kaczur are mediocre JAGS. Most here would have cut Kaczur rather than extend him to a solid contract and start him. Many wanted to trade Light.
The next 2-3 years will a time for transition on the OL. For this year, we will likely lose Mankins and gain Vollmer on the starting OL, ciompared to where we started in 2009. Perhaps this is a major loss, likely not. It remains to be seen whether any of the late round draftees (4th and higher) end up being more than depth in the next couple of years. I have been one that wanted to draft guards early in the past two drafts. Belichick has chosen to draft later and hope, and then draft higher next year if necessary.
THE BOTTOM LINE
We have one of the BEST pass-blocking offensive lines in the league. It has been top 10 for the entire decade. The way to see this is indeed the stats and the effectiveness of the passing offense. Yes, Brady is a god. But he has not led us to one of the top 3 passing offenses almost every year with OK receivers and a poor pass-protecting OL. That is just NOT the way it is.
Brady knows the truth. Belichick know the truth. Dante knows the truth. The opponents that we have played know the truth. Even analysts and players voting for probowl know the truth. The bottom line is that their truth is different from that of most posters here. We live in a time when truth is dependent on who is telling the story.
Foe me, it is what it is, as a couple of great coaches have taught us.
Originally Posted by SammyBlueCat
I disagree. Most members watch the games and form their opinions from what they observe and then post here. The stats that you posted are most likely skewed by a few blow outs against very weak teams.
You speak the truth.
The Patriots have had a top 5 offensive line, year in and year out, for about half a decade now. A QB is going to get hit regardless of how good is line is.
The only weakness I see in the line is interior depth. Over the past 3 seasons, we've learned the importance of Steven Neal. With Mankins potentially out of the picture (at least for camp and half the season), this concern becomes magnified. I think Kaczur will be an adequate replacement for Mankins as a starter, but that thins things out big time.
Challenge for the offensive line bashers here. Name 10 tackles the are clearly better than Matt Light. I'll give you a head start...Long, Thomas, Clady, Gross, Roos...maybe Deihl...who else. Is Jason Peters any better than Light? Furguson, nah. There aren't many.