Mike Reiss brings some sanity to the Brady thing... (ESPN Radio) - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums

***RyanP421*** · 07-20-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

I twisted absolutely nothing, as you well know. Again:

You're wrong man. That's really all that has to be said. Just admit it. Reiss clearly implied that Brady and the Patriots have a STRONG business relationship, but he isn't naive to think it's all great TO THE POINT where they are going out to dinner every night and whatnot.

Maybe you need to listen to it again and figure out how to make out context of what's being said. It's pretty clear as day.

PatsFanSince74 · 07-20-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

As much as I like Mike Reiss, the guy does like to fence sit when it comes to opinions on topics like this.

Well, he has a reputation to protect and, let's face it, Brady's contract negotiation is the biggest off-field story on his beat since Spy Gate. He can't afford to get it badly wrong at a critical time.

I took away from the clip that he genuinely doesn't think he knows (the only thing he presents as his own "reporting" is at the beginning when he says he heard in "the last day" that, though they started talking last year, they weren't doing much talking right now and that he didn't expect anything to happen in the next week or so). The rest is what he "thinks" is going on or his "opinion" about what is going on, based on what he has heard.

My bottom line is that I'm going to go with Reiss' instincts on this. If he doesn't think things are at a critical point or that Brady is going to hold out, then I'm down with that.

***Deus Irae*** · 07-20-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by efin98

Can there ever be a serious thread without Deus Irae hijacking it with his need to be the forum contrarian? This is getting ridiculous...a serious discussion about one of the most important topics regarding the Patriots and Deus Irae has to turn it into a "I am smarter than all of you" event.

I know this will get me an infraction but enough is enough.

Try reading the thread instead of going knee-jerk. I didn't hijack anything.

***Deus Irae*** · 07-20-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanP421

You're wrong man. That's really all that has to be said. Just admit it. Reiss clearly implied that Brady and the Patriots have a STRONG business relationship, but he isn't naive to think it's all great TO THE POINT where they are going out to dinner every night and whatnot.

Maybe you need to listen to it again and figure out how to make out context of what's being said. It's pretty clear as day.

I listened to it multiple times. I put the quotes right here in the thread. I didn't twist anything.

***RyanP421*** · 07-20-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Given that I addressed all 3 people you noted, either directly or indirectly, perhaps the problem is your inability to grasp the language?

I understand journalism just fine. You're complaining about something that was fine. When you grow up enough to learn that a reporter/journalist doesn't have to write EXACTLY what you want him to, you'll have begun walking the path to grasping how media, and the world in general, works.

By they way, JMT's version would fail your test. After all, from elsewhere in the Silver article:

But that doesn't count, of course, right?

You're crazy man.

What Silver did is CLEARLY a big no, no in journalism. You can take parts of the SAME QOUTE from Kraft and run with a story that Brady will be a happy Patriot for the rest of his career. Not sure how you are having such a hard time comprehending such a simple thing here.

efin98 · 07-20-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

As much as I like Mike Reiss, the guy does like to fence sit when it comes to opinions on topics like this.

I am the opposite feeling about this, I applaud him for being on the fence.

He doesn't want his words misconstrued, he doesn't want to report a rumor only to have it turn out to be false, he doesn't want to take a stand only to have to defend it against others trying to knock him down for being wrong- sitting on the fence reporting what little facts there are out there that can be verified by reliable sources is best, not idle speculation.

efin98 · 07-20-2010, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Try reading the thread instead of going knee-jerk. I didn't hijack anything.

Read the entire thread every single post by every single poster from the start to finish. I stand by my rant.

***RyanP421*** · 07-20-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

I listened to it multiple times. I put the quotes right here in the thread. I didn't twist anything.

You're misinterpreting his qoutes. Period.

The fact that you're alone in your interpretation of what Reiss said should tell you something.

***RyanP421*** · 07-20-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by efin98

I am the opposite feeling about this, I applaud him for being on the fence.

He doesn't want his words misconstrued, he doesn't want to report a rumor only to have it turn out to be false, he doesn't want to take a stand only to have to defend it against others trying to knock him down for being wrong- sitting on the fence reporting what little facts there are out there that can be verified by reliable sources is best, not idle speculation.

I agree with you, 100%.

***Deus Irae*** · 07-20-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by efin98

Read the entire thread every single post by every single poster from the start to finish. I stand by my rant.

Given that my first post was the one getting critiqued, and that post had done nothing but give my take on the interview along with quotes/paraphrases, and given that I later went back and put down the specific quotes when I was responded to, your "rant" claiming I hijacked anything makes no sense at all.